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Old 02-06-2014, 09:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You dont know which either, but your siding with the hydrogen thing anyways?

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The question remains: "...which occurred first? (a) the spark igniting the paint or (b) the spark igniting the free hydrogen gas?"

However, because hydrogen gas is far more easy to "ignite" than the metallized paint, your question seems mute [check ignition energy requirements].

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Old 02-06-2014, 10:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I've checked the Minimum Ignition Energy (MIE) requirements of free hydrogen...have you?

• NASA: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/codeq/...led/871916.pdf

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Old 02-07-2014, 06:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well, Im glad you agree with me. The flash was the hydrogen and the burning seen in the news reel is the coating of the ship burning.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:46 AM   #24 (permalink)
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My old ford had one, I removed it, the battery lasted only 2 years instead of the much more average 4 years or greater. Its designed to thermally insulate the battery from the rest of the engine bay and give it a slight cool air source.

Simple stuff really, when charging a battery it produces heat, when discharging a battery it produces heat. When you run an engine it produces LOTS of heat, combine the 3 and you get a recipe for boiling electrolyte away which isn't good for longevity of a battery.

The fact that batteries produce oxygen and hydrogen and acid doesn't even factor into the reason why the battery box is there, the vents are still exposed at the top with or without the battery box that they put into most car engine bays (some cars have them fully enclosed), so the battery is going to be venting those gases into the engine bay anyway, and engine bays generally do not produce naked sparks, usually the sparks are enclosed inside of the engine.

The second reason why the battery box is there is for a slight amount of mechanical vibration insulation to the bottom of the battery, lead acid batteries are made up of semi-fragile lead plates and leads connecting each plate to each other, to form a pack of cells which gives you 12volts nominal per battery.

Without the battery box the battery would be sitting directly onto the metal chassis of the car, absorbing every pothole and all the vibration the engine can put out.

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Old 02-18-2014, 06:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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It is there to keep battery power cooled. If it is mostly enclosed than most of the heat from charging or discharging is contained (not good) and can cause battery power to over heat.

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