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Old 07-24-2009, 11:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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IIRC, the national standard is 10.1% this year (2009). It's in that report, somewhere.

You're still arguing the wrong point, though. You're saying (earlier) that you know that your particular gas stations aren't putting ethanol in your fuel. I oppose that, saying that you CAN'T know, unless you've seen an MSDS for the fuel you're using, and continue to read the updates and informationals on it.

To openly say that a gas station doesn't have ethanol in it's fuel is just plain fallacy, because you can't prove one way or the other.

BTW: The requirement for 2009 is 9.0 billion gallons, not sure what that comes to in percent of actual fuel consumption.

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Old 07-25-2009, 08:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Look, Louisiana REQUIRES a label when ethanol is present in gasoline in percentages greater than 1%. No label, no ethanol. Unless that law has changed (possible), then the stations I'm using aren't using E-blend gas. Many states require a label at the pump. In Louisiana, one reason the labels were required is that E10 starts to will dissolve the resin in some fiberglass tanks, like those you might see on an older boat.

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Petroleum Products and Motor Fuels
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In accordance with the Administrative Procedures Act, R.S. 49:950 et seq., and R.S. 3:4608 and 3:4680, the Commissioner of Agriculture and Forestry, amends regulations to place regulations regarding motor fuels within the chapter dealing with petroleum products; to redefine biodiesel to coincide with the definition of biodiesel that is in federal and state law; to define what is a biodiesel blend; to make technical changes; and to adopt regulation governing labeling of dispensers from which diesel, biodiesel and gasoline-ethanol blends of motor fuel are sold.
It is essential that wholesalers, retailers, and consumers of motor vehicle fuels are made aware of the type of motor fuel that is being received and whether the motor fuel is blended with biodiesel, ethanol, or other types of motor fuels. The proper labeling of dispensers of diesel, biodiesel and gasoline-ethanol blends of motor fuel allow purchasers and consumers of these motor fuels to be aware of the nature of the motor fuel that is being purchased or consumed, so that they may make an informed decision as to whether they want to purchase or use the motor fuel. These regulations provide for the labeling of motor fuel dispensers to achieve this purpose.
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Old 07-25-2009, 09:16 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Fair enough... that could have been posted several posts ago, and the debate would have been ended then.

"Renewable" and "Biomass" fuel doesn't necessarily refer to Ethanol, either. So you know.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:34 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Sorry, I don't like being put in the position of retracting something because I didn't research it properly. I hedged by saying that "Most stations in this area post a sticker up that says, "May contain up to 10%ethanol" if they choose to use a renewable blend." I might recommend the same to you before you call BS on somebody else.
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I live in Louisiana, and all stations I have ever seen have that sticker.
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Where are you? I'm not sure why, but I think E10 is more common down in South La. Up here in Monroe, it probably runs about 50-50% E10. Last time I was in Baton Rouge, every station I saw had E10.
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just about every station is ethanol blend here

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