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Old 01-02-2020, 07:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I must admit I'm a massive lurker on ecomodder, but I feel like I must defend the lurker!
If you think about it, the thread is a celebration of lurkers. There are generally ten flys-on-the-wall for every member signed in.

All Dark — The term predates .html, despite what https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/rules-of-the-internet might say.

The full catch-phrase was https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22lurkers+support+me+in+email

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The Lurkers Support Me in E-mail
(To the tune of "My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean")

By Jo Walton
The lurkers support me in email
They all think I'm great don't you know.
You posters just don't understand me
But soon you will reap what you sow.

Lurkers, lurkers, lurkers support me, you'll see, you'll see
off in e-mail the lurkers support me, you'll see.

Oh it's true, and you know they support me.
There's thousands of lurkers out there!
They all understand my intentions
you posters are not being fair!

Lurkers, lurkers, lurkers support me, you'll see, you'll see
off in e-mail the lurkers support me, you'll see

The lurkers support me in email
"So why don't they post?" you all cry
They're scared of your hostile intentions
they're not as courageous as I.

Lurkers, lurkers, lurkers support me, you'll see, you'll see
off in e-mail the lurkers support me, you'll see
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Old 01-02-2020, 08:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Most threads I'm merely lurking. It's what you do until you've got something substantive or humorous to share.

When I start a new interest and join a forum, much of my initial time is simply learning the lingo and basic concepts.
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Then there's the "thanks" button, which I often use if a post made me laugh, think, corrected an error of mine, speaks a great truth, or even contradicts with my views but is given honestly and in good faith.
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An unwritten rule is don't say anything you wouldn't want your mom/probation officer to see.
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An unwritten rule is don't say anything you wouldn't want your mom/probation officer to see.
This is an interesting tangent topic.

The legal system (it is not a justice system) is designed to disproportionately harm those who are both technically guilty of violating the law, and speak truthfully. If someone denies wrongdoing yet is still found guilty, they often face less severe consequences as there is some doubt they have introduced as to their culpability. On the other hand, someone confessing is given the maximum punishment since that is in the interest of the prosecutor; to assign guilt and seek maximum punishment.

Fortunately in the US, we have the right to remain silent, so that at least provides a way to not speak falsely while not sacrificing oneself to the legal system.

I'm not advocating breaking the law in general, but when this country finally corrupts their best acknowledgement of inalienable rights; the right to freedom of speech, our duty will be to insist on maintaining it.
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People can be quite worse dictator than the state.

What we see today called as murder of reputation, made by people on web when someone says something people don't like, even when it's true, shows how people are worse than state.
Today everything, or nearly everthing offends someone somewhere...

Most people are animals. If they were in charge of create & apply laws they would be far worse than the actual system.


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This is an interesting tangent topic.

The legal system (it is not a justice system) is designed to disproportionately harm those who are both technically guilty of violating the law, and speak truthfully. If someone denies wrongdoing yet is still found guilty, they often face less severe consequences as there is some doubt they have introduced as to their culpability. On the other hand, someone confessing is given the maximum punishment since that is in the interest of the prosecutor; to assign guilt and seek maximum punishment.

Fortunately in the US, we have the right to remain silent, so that at least provides a way to not speak falsely while not sacrificing oneself to the legal system.

I'm not advocating breaking the law in general, but when this country finally corrupts their best acknowledgement of inalienable rights; the right to freedom of speech, our duty will be to insist on maintaining it.
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People can be quite worse dictator than the state.
It goes both ways, and there is no clearly better form of government, though absolute power does tend to corrupt. Power corrupts even when it's shared by multiple people/groups.

I have absolute power over my child, who is essentially a slave. Did that corrupt me? If people keep proper perspective; that power brings equal measures of responsibility, then they would not abuse it. Instead we're led to believe that power brings with it self-gratification, which isn't the purpose of power.

I'd much rather be ruled by a benevolent and wise dictator than a collection of selfish idiots.
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