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Old 06-14-2023, 02:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Unless it's deemed a "collectible" car 30-years or older, it's not easy. Not even in the Manaus Free Port Zone.




Either he tries to make a cabrito with the help of a Paraguayan, or it definitely won't be possible.
So wrecks and automotive parts are also illegal that’s worse in some ways than here but At least he can buy brand new at an immensely exaggerated price unlike here where new is impossible at any price.

Sounds like he should buy a “new” $2500 Chinese EV to get his feet wet

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Old 06-14-2023, 10:10 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Jeez there was a lot of misinformed crap on that forum, like every caveat I heard 10 years ago when I converted the ranger. Still awaiting the imminent nuclear holocaust from the battery.
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Old 06-14-2023, 12:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Jeez there was a lot of misinformed crap on that forum, like every caveat I heard 10 years ago when I converted the ranger. Still awaiting the imminent nuclear holocaust from the battery.
Nah that’s just the Sam Spade guy.

If your tire is worn he goes into a rage that you will crash into his house and light on fire.

If your car burns a lot of oil and isn’t worth fixing likewise it’s going to start a fire and crash into his house and you should be thrown in prison.

Literally anything non-OEM is going to crash into his house and light on fire

Guys been temporarily banned a few times.

Maybe he has had cars crash into his house and light on fire but it’s a common theme with him.

Perhaps we invite him here could be a fun experience.


My take on converting a car that is still good running and valuable is also somewhat negative as the financials are hard to work out.

I gave some helpful links as doing an OEM Prius conversion is much more possible today but unless you are extremely bright there are trolls camping on certain aspects of the “openinverter” that can drive up the cost a lot.

In his situation and region with limited funds I would tend to fall in the it’s not really worth it.

It’s a thing you do for fun and learning with a backup plan to your only car and obviously enough money to spend that such an endeavor isn’t going to cause life issues
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Perhaps we invite him here could be a fun experience.


My take on converting a car that is still good running and valuable is also somewhat negative as the financials are hard to work out.

In his situation and region with limited funds I would tend to fall in the it’s not really worth it.

It’s a thing you do for fun and learning with a backup plan to your only car and obviously enough money to spend that such an endeavor isn’t going to cause life issues
The forum has done the invitation thing, AFAIK doesn't really work out.

I was taking the project as adding more battery to a hybrid and forgetting about fuel operations. Except for having BMS problems, couldn't see where that was going to be hard other than periodically hanging the OBD & computer.
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I was taking the project as adding more battery to a hybrid and forgetting about fuel operations. Except for having BMS problems, couldn't see where that was going to be hard other than periodically hanging the OBD & computer.
That was my take as well. Adding an additional battery pack. There are commercial kits that do just that and add a piggy back Li-Ion pack that charges the stock Prius Ni-MH pack with an inverter. The Li-Ion pack only charges on residential power so power flow is one way and BMS is much simpler.

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Wasn't thinking about re using it to RECHARGE, but more along the lines of parallel pack. Recharge is much easier, but could it be done while in use without setting a obd flag?
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Wasn't thinking about re using it to RECHARGE, but more along the lines of parallel pack. Recharge is much easier, but could it be done while in use without setting a obd flag?
It has been about 10 years since I seriously investigated this kind of system but my understanding of how it works is this:

The Li-Ion pack feeds power to the stock Ni-MH battery through a DC-DC converter with the voltage set to about 80% or so of the NI-MH battery's SOC. Because the voltage being fed into the battery is within the normal range the OBD doesn't notice anything. The OBD just thinks the Ni-MH magically is staying in the correct range for EV mode mile after mile. When the Li-Ion battery gets to 20% the DC-DC inverter turns off, stops feeding power through the stock battery, and then the Prius runs like stock but with some extra weight under the hatch. The Li-ion battery is then recharged at home with AC power.

So it works kinda like a PHEV but without the ability to recharge the piggy-back Li-Ion battery from the engine.
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Is the oversteer gradual or does it come on all at once?
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Is the oversteer gradual or does it come on all at once?
Adding 150 - 250 lbs to the hatch area of a Prius isn't going to get it even to neutral handling let alone snap oversteer. The Prius has REALLY bad understeer - even the suspension is tuned to reduce it.
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Not seeing how the boost battery set to 80% is going to do anything until the main battery drops below that value. Not having one of these prius things, I have no history of data gathering, but in the volt pack I have, you don't drop to 80% system voltage till you're gone a fair distance even accelerating up a hill in the winter.

Just did the math, 80% remaining is lower than my recharge point.

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