04-19-2008, 02:58 PM
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Higher than expected for a Jeep
OK, this last fill showed me 21.67. Way better than I imagined. So I am not sure if this is factual or an anomoly. I altered my habits with brake and throttle. Mostly highway and 2 to 4 people. When in the city, chose freeway over streets where I could.
So I have a conundrum. I believe I have an answer for it. DPoV and others, might remember I wondered how to deal with offroading mileage. Since next weekend is going to have an all day adventure. That will kill my average. I'm thinking of throwing out those fill ups. Or better, is there a way to have a second mileage log for the offroad stuff?
So, I got a better return for my troubles this week. Have I reached the limits? Was this a fluke? DPoV, any ideas?
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04-19-2008, 08:02 PM
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oh it's possible alright. i pulled almost 23 and a half last tank. No, I don't think you've reached the limits. I thought I did when I couldn't get past 21, but then i got 22, then 23, my short term goal is 25, which I hope to reach. It wasn't a fluke. you definitely did well. Keep up the good work! shortest road doesn't mean the most efficient. I'll take the roads that are longer, but don't have stop signs on them. or I'll take the ones with street lights instead of stop signs. I've took down one the off-roading adventures and i got like 18. I don't know. Admins, would it be possible to have a seperate one if your vehicle type is "truck" or "other"?
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04-19-2008, 10:12 PM
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It's the warm weather, meng,
Congrats.
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04-20-2008, 02:53 AM
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No, I thought that he lived in a hot climate? or was that another Jeeper? I can't recall. less use of brakes and throttle have yielded me some of the way I've gotten over 23. ever since I've tried new techniques and the weather getting nicer it's been going up.
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04-20-2008, 01:12 PM
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Its going to get hot here. At least I don't live near Death Valley like I used to. Last week temps were near 80 on Monday, and below freezing again Thursday. We had rain and snow Tuesday and Wednesday. Might get some again tonight and tomorrow.
At least here, when the sun goes down, so does the temp in the late summer. When I lived in the Mojave desert in Cali the temps would remain high well after midnight. Now I live in Utah near Salt Lake City, and work and recreate in the West Desert/Great Salt Lake Desert. Looking forward soon to a trip on the old Pony Express route and branching out to other interesting locations too. Maybe Moab next fall.
Tires are at 32 psi, anything higher and I cannot stand the ride. I am still going speed limit and sometimes 5 over. Just rethinking how I accelerate and brake. I am sure, if I didn't have that mountain pass on my commute, the mileage would be a little higher. Sorry, but I haven't wrapped my mind around going too much slower than everyone else yet. I use cruise in mostly flat terrain, but hills I take over as the cruise kicks it down too soon. I watch the MPG gauge in the overhead console knowing it is off a bit (sometimes high sometimes low...), as it does give me an indication if I am wasting gas or doing OK. At least it is better feedback than waiting till the pump. My Jeep is too old for the ScanGauge. Even so, this Jeep isn't doing too bad for 150,000+ miles on the clock and having no idea how the previous owners took care of it.
I am going to see about using an old truck bedliner to help smooth the bottom. Nobody wants the thing and I can't keep it around, so I'm slicing it up soon. I think I will fit it in with a modification of my transmission crossmember and tucking the transfer case skidplate up a bit. Gives me more clearance and smoother belly. And as mentioned before, I'm going to start building some bumpers (as soon as the Ranger project is complete), so I can get rid of that plastic rear bumper that I see as a bit of an underbody flow parachute. Again, protection and aero assist.
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04-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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I might have to get rid of the Jeep soon. gas is getting so high, that it'll cost 80-90 bucks to fill-er up. and I can't deal with that. even while beating the EPA. As for the ride It really doesn't matter to me, cause the roads are so crappy, (some are cobblestone with bricks jutting up in the air) that no matter what the PSI it feels like your driving over small logs and large rocks. so I run 37psi.
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04-20-2008, 10:38 PM
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i know what you mean DPoV, i just filled up and it cost me $63.51. anyhow, i dont know about omiting the offroad mileage, maybe just not log the tank? i personally dont worry about how the difference is reflected, i just put in the notes that that tank included an offroad excursion.
maybe you could make a vehicle profile for tanks which include offroad trips. an option on how to do it would be to fill your tank right before you go offroad, that way you would have the real mileage for a smaller fill and then fill up right after getting off the trail, and use that info for an offroad fuel mileage log.
just a thought, it would be interesting to see how it compares on road with changed driving techniques compared to off road driving styles
-john
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04-20-2008, 11:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnpr
i know what you mean DPoV, i just filled up and it cost me $63.51. anyhow, i dont know about omiting the offroad mileage, maybe just not log the tank? i personally dont worry about how the difference is reflected, i just put in the notes that that tank included an offroad excursion.
maybe you could make a vehicle profile for tanks which include offroad trips. an option on how to do it would be to fill your tank right before you go offroad, that way you would have the real mileage for a smaller fill and then fill up right after getting off the trail, and use that info for an offroad fuel mileage log.
just a thought, it would be interesting to see how it compares on road with changed driving techniques compared to off road driving styles
-john
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In the garage they have a trip log function where you can log each off road tank.
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04-21-2008, 12:45 AM
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I'll see about the different loggings. For extended offroad excursions I always fill before I go. And carry a 5 gallon can sometimes too. But I'll see about showing mileage for such trips.
Very few FE methods transfer to offroading. Well, shutting down for extended times waiting on others is a great way to save fuel.
DPoV, I hear ya on the cost of filling a 23 gallon tank. Believe me, getting the Ranger finished soon makes me happy, so I can get my Neon back! Just because, I rarely go below 1/2 tank if I can help it. That way topping off the tank isn't so painful. I am also looking forward to another offroad project that should be a little better on fuel than the ZJ...
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04-23-2008, 10:51 PM
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well last time i put gas in my tank it was 1/8th below half, and it cost me $50 :EEK!: That's where I got the 80 to 90 from. Good news for the neon!
As for the trip log. will that count towards your 90 day average and lifetime? or is it separate?
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