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How do we feel about the iPhone/Android app, Automatic?
Automatic: An Auto Accessory to Make You a Smarter Driver
Has anyone seen this thing? $100... Same as a SGe. Coincidence? Has anyone actually used it? Can someone that has either of them compare the differences? I am looking to get the SGe for my daily commute. |
I'd be interested to hear from someone that has owned this product and one of the others common to the community.
My guess is it doesn't add much, if anything, to the fee Torque app for androids. The Bluetooth Elm237 device that talks to Torque is $10 on Ebay. It's very hard to beat $10. The UG also comes out ahead in the price dept at $70 I guess. Wow, is it that high? I thought I got mine for $45. |
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Why not Ultragauge?
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The features just are not there, dollar-for-dollar. |
Thanks for that PDF comparison - very good. Glad I kept my scangauge II.
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UG Potential Available Gauges
I don't think the PDF makes an accurate comparison. Download the manuals for both and do your own. See two examples below.
Table 1 - Potential Available Gauges % Engine Load Engine Coolant Temperature (oF) Short Term Fuel Trim Bank 1 Long Term Fuel Trim Bank 1 Short Term Fuel Trim Bank 2 Long Term Fuel Trim Bank 2 Fuel Pressure (PSI) Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure (PSI) RPM MPH Timing Advance Intake Air Temperature (oF) Mass Air Flow Sensor 1 (g/s) Absolute Throttle Position 1 % Bank 1 0xygen Sensor 1 Voltage Bank 1 0xygen Sensor 2 Voltage Bank 1 0xygen Sensor 3 Voltage Bank 1 0xygen Sensor 4 Voltage Bank 2 0xygen Sensor 1 Voltage Bank 2 0xygen Sensor 2 Voltage Bank 2 0xygen Sensor 3 Voltage Bank 2 0xygen Sensor 4 Voltage Run time since last Start (hours:mins) Distance traveled with Check Engine Light On. Fuel Pressure (Diesel) Bank 1 Wide 0xygen Sensor 1 Lambda Bank 1 Wide 0xygen Sensor 2 Lambda Bank 1 Wide 0xygen Sensor 3 Lambda Bank 1 Wide 0xygen Sensor 4 Lambda Bank 2 Wide 0xygen Sensor 1 Lambda Bank 2 Wide 0xygen Sensor 2 Lambda Bank 2 Wide 0xygen Sensor 3 Lambda Bank 2 Wide 0xygen Sensor 4 Lambda EGR Flow % EGR Flow % Error Evaporative Purge % Fuel Level % of full Number of Warm-ups since Check Engine Light Cleared Distance traveled since Check Engine Light Cleared Evaporative System (PSI) Barometric Pressure – Inches of Mercury (inHg) Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Sensor 1 Temperature (oF) Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Sensor 1 Temperature (oF) Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Sensor 2 Temperature (oF) Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Sensor 2 Temperature (oF) Battery Voltage Relative Throttle Position % Outside Ambient Air Temperature (oF) Absolute Throttle Position 2 % Accelerator Pedal Position 1 % Accelerator Pedal Position 2 % Command Throttle Position % Engine Oil Temperature (oF) Mass Air Flow Sensor 2 – Calculated Instantaneous MPG Average MPG – General Average MPH – General Average G/H - General Run Time – General Distance – General (miles) Fuel Used – General (Gallons) Instantaneous Gallons/Hour Fuel Level (in gallons or fuel to empty) Distance to Empty(DTE) (miles) Time to Empty(TTE) (Hours:Mins) Volumetric Efficiency (MAP vehicles only) Average MPH – Trip Average MPG – Tripl Fuel Used – Trip (Gallons) Average Gallons/Hour – trip Run Time – Trip (Hours:Minutes) Distance -Trip (miles) Oil Change Distance (miles) Service Distance (miles) UltraGauge Internal Temperature (oF) |
I use a cheap wifi obd connector from dx.com and the Enginelink app on my iphone.
The app isn't much, but it does the job... The big plus of a SG or UG is that it does its work all the time, also when using the phone for music, calls or navigation. |
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The SG does have great support, mine was having issues with my Escape Hybrid, they told me to send it in for them to check it, a week later I got it back with a CAN only cable that made it work perfectly. Haven't dealt with UG's support, but the rebate is terrible to do, I would just plan on it costing $70+shipping. |
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Looking at the PDF some of the yellow and green highlighted features that the ultra gauge lacks and scan gauge has are highlighted in red in the ultragauge column (it has those features so, not sure what the color codes imply). |
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