How to mount a secondary transmission backwards for added gears?
Please, I thought of this years ago, but could not figure out how to do it?
Dan Merritt |
More details please.
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If you mount it backwards, doesn't that mean you're stepping the speed back down?
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No, it would be a super-duper overdrive, depending on the transmission.
Perhaps it could function as a poor man's Gear Vendor's OD? |
I knew i read that somewhere. Xpedro did that on the Aerosprite.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...ent-28086.html It wound up with a 1600cc pinto engine (& transmission) with the camshaft retarded 2 notches (poor man's Atkinson cycle) Additional (2nd) Buick transmission, reversed, to gain up to a 2.5 overdrive |
Reply to backward transmission.
I guess it would have been better to write it out than assume everyone would know what I was talking about.
It is the Aero Sprite by Tom Shrimplin, who modifies an Austin Healey Bugeye to get 65 mpg by modifying the body to very aerodynamic, installing a 1600 Pinto engine with a 4 speed PLUS A BUICK TRANS MOUNTED BACKWARDS GIVING THE CAR 12 FORWARD GEARS. OK, now that is the background, now, how do you accomplish this feat, Tom, anyone? |
I understand what you're asking, but if you sit down and really think about actually installing a 2nd transmission, it's a ridiculous concept. Wastes energy, extra weight, complexity, reliability issues.
Besides, the 65 mpg that the Aero Sprite achieved is not all that impressive these days. |
I thought that was interesting (with appropriate caveats) when I read about the aero-sprite too.
dtmerritt, your car might be suitable for a $20ish, 1 hour to install, 5th gear swap. But otherwise I'm guessing the buick was a 3 speed, so you would have to look at the pinto 4 speed and the buick 3 speed from that era and figure out the nuts and bolts. If the pinto 4th gear and buick 3rd gear are direct drive, it might not have been too "lossy". |
The streamlined Ford Model T also used the "backwards 2nd transmission" trick: from a Chev, installed behind the Ford's:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...odel-t-92.html http://forum.ecomodder.com/attachmen...1&d=1199032408 |
The vehicle I want economy from is a 1955 Pontiac Star Chief ( almost 4000 lbs and square as a brick. It has the very old dual range Hydro Matic without a park position. Economy is one factor, another is, who knows how to fix it id it breaks?
Van get a $800 adapter and put a GM overdrive trans behind the engine for about $2500 Total, will pay for it,self in 40,000 miles.At 69 and with various heath issues, driving 5,000 miles a year, that is a chancey bet. I could put a Gear Venders OD behind the hydromatic for about $3,500, then I still have the worry of the original trans. |
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