Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-29-2014, 04:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
Drive less save more
 
ecomodded's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Posts: 1,189

Dusty - '98 VOLKSWAGEN Beetle TDI
TEAM VW AUDI Group
90 day: 60.42 mpg (US)
Thanks: 134
Thanked 162 Times in 135 Posts
Hydrogen generator from the Cival war

I was watching a program that touched on balloon warfare and mentioned the use of hydrogen generators to create hydrogen gas for the balloons lift.

Which got me thinking maybe we could use this technology today to make home fill gas stations or possible a on board hydrogen generator.





`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ````````````

from wiki on balloon warfare:

Quote - a compact system of tanks and copper plumbing, were constructed which converted the combining of iron filings and sulfuric acid into hydrogen -

in context -
The first major-scale use of balloons in the military occurred during the American Civil War with the Union Army Balloon Corps established and organized by Prof. Thaddeus S. C. Lowe in the summer of 1861. Originally, the balloons were inflated with coal gas from municipal services and then walked out to the battlefield, an arduous and inefficient operation as the balloons had to be returned to the city every four days for re-inflation. Eventually hydrogen gas generators, a compact system of tanks and copper plumbing, were constructed which converted the combining of iron filings and sulfuric acid to hydrogen. The generators were easily transported with the uninflated balloons to the field on a standard buckboard. However, this method shortened the life of the balloons, because traces of the sulfuric acid often entered the balloons along with the hydrogen.[2] In all, Lowe built seven balloons that were fit for military service.

__________________
Save gas
Ride a Mtn bike for errands exercise entertainment and outright fun
__________________



  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 05-31-2014, 12:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
euromodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,683

The SCUD - '15 Fiat Scudo L2
Thanks: 178
Thanked 652 Times in 516 Posts
I'd rather not have too much sulphuric acid in the car.
Nor enough H2 to make much of a difference on the fuel consumption.

Essentially, they're describing an acid battery.
__________________
Strayed to the Dark Diesel Side

  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2014, 10:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
basjoos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 1,088

Aerocivic - '92 Honda Civic CX
Last 3: 70.54 mpg (US)

AerocivicLB - '92 Honda Civic CX
Team Honda
90 day: 55.14 mpg (US)

Camryglide - '20 Toyota Camry hybrid LE
90 day: 65.83 mpg (US)
Thanks: 16
Thanked 677 Times in 302 Posts
Although the generator and balloon were transported on a buckboard, the heavy pile of iron filings and gallons of sulfuric acid were transported on separate wagons for safety. This hydrogen generator is a large scale version of what you did in chemistry lab when you dropped iron filings into a test tube of sulfuric acid and watched the hydrogen bubbles rise to the surface.
__________________
aerocivic.com
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 05:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
DieselMiser
 
ConnClark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Richland,WA
Posts: 985

Das Schlepper Frog - '85 Mercedes Benz 300SD
90 day: 23.23 mpg (US)

Gentoo320 - '04 Mercedes C320 4Matic
90 day: 22.44 mpg (US)
Thanks: 46
Thanked 232 Times in 160 Posts
Keep in mind that the reagents of this reaction are expended and you have to dispose of the mess afterwards. Chemical transportation and environmental laws are much stricter than they were in the Civil war too.

__________________
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com