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Old 02-08-2020, 11:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Went to a dealership today to check out a 2013 Nissan Leaf SL with 73,000 miles. It was in good shape, and the guess-o-meter showed 25 miles range at 50% charge. There were 7 bars (out of 12) left on the battery health. Asking price was $7,000.

I had the fortune of working with an older salesman, and those guys either read their customers better, or just don't have the energy to give the sleazy, manipulative, high pressure sales pitch. When asked what I thought, I threw him a tentative number, and he said it sounded like something they could work with. Then he came back and said it just sold to someone else that had come just prior to me.

Oh well, I didn't know how to use Leafspy since I had just downloaded it prior to going, and it seems to me SOH stands for State of Health. If that's true, the battery capacity is at 57%, which is not great on an 80 mile range vehicle. Maybe I don't want such a worn out EV, though 50 miles of range is fine.



They had a 2016 with 30,000 miles with all 12 bars and 85 miles showing. Leafspy seems to show 86% capacity remaining. Kinda shady that Nissan has the first bar represent 15% capacity, and then other bars represent half that. The asking price on this was $12,000, but I don't think it was a top trim level since it didn't have a heated steering wheel or rear seat.



These used vehicles qualify for the $2,500 Oregon rebate for low income families. It's for my parents, so they would qualify. Oregon subsidizes this by charging 0.5% tax on new vehicle sales.

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The first one, the 2013 was a top trim, so I expect it had BT. It had rear seat heating and a heated steering wheel. The 2016 said the words Blue Tooth on the infotainment screen I think it was. No rear seat heating or heated steering wheel, but it did have a backup camera, something which I didn't see on the top trip 2013.
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An old leaf with 50% battery capacity is only like a $2,500 to $3,500 car.
I had mine shipped 900 miles and it had 90% capacity, was still less than under $7,000.
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An old leaf with 50% battery capacity is only like a $2,500 to $3,500 car.
I had mine shipped 900 miles and it had 90% capacity, was still less than under $7,000.
Agreed. After Oregon rebate, it would have been $4,000. Don't know how many more years it has left in it though. Parents probably should have a 40 mile minimum range.

If I can get a used Bolt for $14,000 as was mentioned in another thread, that seems the best option... then again I could get a new Bolt or maybe even Ioniq or perhaps Leaf for about $20k after subsidies.
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Do it. More oil for export. It's the American thing to do.
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How do I install a Viper alarm on a Power Wheels?
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Agreed. After Oregon rebate, it would have been $4,000. Don't know how many more years it has left in it though. Parents probably should have a 40 mile minimum range.

If I can get a used Bolt for $14,000 as was mentioned in another thread, that seems the best option... then again I could get a new Bolt or maybe even Ioniq or perhaps Leaf for about $20k after subsidies.
I a way it seems that rebate sort of sucks because all the Oregon dealers are doing is adding $2500 to the price. I suppose maybe it will suck in all the EVs from surrounding states by encouraging higher bids for Oregon dealers at the auctions. Then it will even drive the used EV prices up outside of Oregon. I would be all over a few $6500 EVs I have seen if I could get another $2500 off.

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