Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > General Efficiency Discussion
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-12-2012, 07:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurcher
 
mort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 333
Thanks: 151
Thanked 109 Times in 80 Posts
Lithium Si-Graphene battery anode

I haven't found this discussed on ecomodder, it seems to be a month-old news:
Quote:
The work is showing extraordinary results. Independent full cell tests reveal unrivaled performance characteristics, with an energy density of 525WH/Kg and specific anode capacity 1,250mAh/g. In contrast, most commercial LIBs have an energy density of between 100-180WH/kg and a specific anode capacity of 325mAh/g. “This equates to more than a 300% improvement in LIB capacity and an estimated 70% reduction in lifetime cost for batteries used in consumer electronics, EVs, and grid-scale energy storage,” said CalBattery CEO Phil Roberts.
-mort

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 11-15-2012, 04:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,710
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,927 Times in 7,370 Posts
Graphene/graphane is truly a wonder material.

I follow the news on Science Daily:Nanotechnology News; here is their current top story:

Paper-and-Scissors Technique Rocks the Nano World: Future Nanofluidic Devices for Batteries, Water Purification Systems
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 08:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 1,756

spyder2 - '00 Toyota MR2 Spyder
Thanks: 104
Thanked 407 Times in 312 Posts
Real question is if they can take a high number of cycles.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,710
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,927 Times in 7,370 Posts
Time will tell. Nanoscale additive manufacture results in fewer flaws than whittling things out of bulk materials.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2012, 09:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,268

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
It would be nice if it pans out.
Every few months I hear about some break through battery technology that will be a vast improvement over current technology.
And then never hear any more about it.

I think out of the near dozen I have read about over the years only lithium polymer has delivered anything and it never lived up to the early hype expectations.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 07:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,710
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,927 Times in 7,370 Posts
A few years back someone announced a double-smelting process that would make titanium as cheap as aluminum. I really wanted to see that one turn out.

The comet Kohoutek was a disappointment, too.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 08:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,268

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
A few years back someone announced a double-smelting process that would make titanium as cheap as aluminum. I really wanted to see that one turn out.
Ahh yes I totally dismissed that one.
Too bad because titanium oxide is fairly common and cheap.
I occasionally work with titanium, weld it, cut it, shape it.
Typically I can pick up scrap for as cheaply as $10 per pound normally its about $25 a pound for larger good clean reuseable scrap.
For a time full retail price was close to $100/lb.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-16-2012, 08:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 1,756

spyder2 - '00 Toyota MR2 Spyder
Thanks: 104
Thanked 407 Times in 312 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
A few years back someone announced a double-smelting process that would make titanium as cheap as aluminum. I really wanted to see that one turn out.

The comet Kohoutek was a disappointment, too.
There's a lot of this new material stuff going on, I remember reading about it ever since I was like 8, but none of it has ever become commercially available. People are always claiming to be able to produce some new composite material that's stronger and stiffer for less money. Well, MMC has been used in a handful of applications I guess, that's about it. Makes you wonder where all that VC money goes.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2012, 02:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,710
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,927 Times in 7,370 Posts
oil pan 4 -- With that and your truck bumper, it sounds like you have a handle on scrap metal prices. About the time you got your bumper I picked up a piece of sheet aluminum at the local hippy recyclers. A piece the size of a license plate cost $5.

serialk11r -- The stuff sneaks in under the radar.

Here's a liquid screen protector that appears to be a first-to-market for Liquid Glass. But Oakley seems to have the same product for their glasses that plays up the hydrophobic aspect.

Nanoscale ceramic clear coat has been used by Mercedes since 2003: Nano paint technology | The Chronicle Herald. You can buy the stuff; but my bookmarks are in such disarray I can't give you the Brand. Similarly I can't find the link I had for a good discussion of a clear-coat paint that is as hard as milled aluminum. Here's a link I *can* find: Automotive OEM Coatings| Aerospace Coating| Marine Paint| Nanocoatings.

Aren't things moving too fast already? Socks with colloidal silver in them have been on the market for years and people are just now getting worried about the effect on municipal sewage systems.

MMC?

Last edited by freebeard; 11-17-2012 at 02:45 AM.. Reason: MMC
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2012, 09:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,710
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,927 Times in 7,370 Posts
Here are two more from Science Daily:

Making steam with sunlight and nanoparticles at 24% efficiency. I'm picturing a gas/solar hybrid steam engine:
Super-Efficient Solar-Energy Technology: ‘Solar Steam’ So Effective It Can Make Steam from Icy Cold Water

A carbon nanotube twisted up like the rubber band in a model airplane. With both ends fixed you get contractile force like a muscle. With one end fixed you get rotational torque.
Wax-Filled Nanotech Yarn Behaves Like Powerful, Super-Strong Muscle

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com