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Old 07-16-2019, 11:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lotus's Evija, a 1,680-kg, $2.1m electric car that charges in nine minutes

The charger is vaporware, but using existing technology it would charge in 18 minutes with a 270-mile range.

However, it is slower than a Tesla, which is fun, considering it is ridiculously more expensive.

https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/16/...car-ev-launch/

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Reading closely in the article, Lotus reckons they can have the car at 1680kg, not 1680lb... which is still incredibly light for something they’re promising some almost 2000hp from...
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"[T]he Evija is shooting for a target weight of 1,680kg."

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Who in the world measures in kilograms?! The Drug Enforcement Administration?!
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Would like to see Elise/Exige electrified.

EVs should probably be AWD considering the extreme torque they can instantly lay down. If for no other reason than to help preserve the life of tires.
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EVs should probably be AWD considering the extreme torque they can instantly lay down. If for no other reason than to help preserve the life of tires.
How difficult would that be with two motors?

Burning out tires only benefits tire companies.
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I wouldn't count on the Lotus being "slower" It probably will be able to complete a full lap at Nürburgring without gong into limp mode. Even if the Roadster ever gets built and has the brakes and battery cooling upgraded, it will never get over it's weight penalty if braking and cornering, along with acceleration is involved.
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Remember that Elons first Tesla was a gutted lotus "roller" with batteries in the trunk
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How difficult would that be with two motors?
Difficult?

Tesla has that as an option in their vehicles. They use a more expensive permanent magnet motor for one axle, and a less expensive inductive motor for the other. It runs only the 1 efficient motor when the power and traction isn't needed, and both when it is.

It's as difficult as putting another motor, controller, and axles/differential on the car. No idea what that would add to the cost to manufacture. $800?
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So, an extra $6,000 is excessive?
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Adding dual motors is a way to boost profit, as shown by Tesla. Many consumers value the added range, power, and traction that the dual motor version of the S provided more than the price premium Tesla put on that option.

Looks like the Model 3 has dual motor variants now too. One is marketed as AWD, and the other is "performance".

There's a table 1/3rd down this page that shows the different specs. Apparently there's no range to be added by dual motors in the 3 since the single motor version already utilizes the efficient permanent magnet motor. It's a speed and traction boost only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_3

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