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Old 06-24-2011, 05:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,
I have a manual Protege 2003 and I am a bit confused when it comes to EOC. I read the owner's manual and it says the vehicle cannot be flat-towed (does not say if it applies to both manual and auto transaxles). In the towing section it even says: "Never push-start a vehicle that has a manual transaxle. It can damage the emission control system."

Basically I'd like to know, is it ok for me to EOC? to push-start? Do other Protege owners have any advice for me?

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Old 06-25-2011, 02:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Those statements make no sense to me. AFAIK, flat-towing any two-wheel drive manual transmission car is fine, and I'm unaware of how push-starting a manual can damage its emissions control system.
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I have a manual Protege 2003 and I am a bit confused when it comes to EOC. I read the owner's manual and it says the vehicle cannot be flat-towed
A 2WD manual in Neutral should be able to be towed engine-off.

Personally I haven't heard of a manual transmission car that can't be towed (except with permanent 4WD) - and around here, manual cars are the norm.
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A 2WD manual in Neutral should be able to be towed engine-off.
IIRC there are/were a few - the old Ford Crapi I think couldn't be towed far unless the propshaft was disconnected.
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its NEVER recommended "flat" towing a vehicle for long distances unless your able to disengage the drivetrain. otherwise you risk damaging everything drivetrain related beyond repair.
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When I towed my MT Datsun pickup from 4000 miles from Colorado to Alaska, I disconnected the driveshaft. But we're really not talking about towing long distances. We're talking about EOC during P&G.

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