03-31-2008, 10:44 AM
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And not very comfortable at that. Again, not everyone wants to do gymnastics or be a contortionist to get into a vehcile.
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03-31-2008, 11:43 AM
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And not very comfortable at that. Again, not everyone wants to do gymnastics or be a contortionist to get into a vehcile.
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Dude, 8'5" -- showing the tallest man alive getting into any car is hardly evidence that no one fits into a car....
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03-31-2008, 11:51 AM
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I know what you mean John... I'm 6'3" also, and a little bigger around the middle than I care to admit... There are cars I just can't get comfortable in. Some mini-trucks too. And even some not-so-mini vehicles. I do not fit well in a Dodge Dakota or first gen Durango. The b-pillar sits where my shoulder should be. I DO fit reasonably in Mini-Cooper. Infact i know a guy taller than me that drives one. I can't afford one at thist point in time. My Neon is a good fit, not great, but I can travel in it cross country no trouble. Or with a second person too. But no way can I fit 4 adults in it.
I've a friend with a Metro. He HATES it, it is cramped for him (he is bigger than me), but loves the mileage. In the year he has owned it, it has saved him almost as much as it cost him to buy.
I once wrote a review, of sorts, after renting a 2002 or 2003 Subaru Outback Wagon. I didn't mind the car in general, but in the couple days I had it, I never found a position that I could even tolerate. Otherwise, i wasn't unhappy with the mileage return, could have used more power, but was a ton of fun offroad to drive.
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03-31-2008, 12:47 PM
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^^ when i first met my wife she had a neon, i was quite surprised at how tolerable it was but alas that went the way of the buffalo and was replaced with a saturn ion which had a similar fit, my wife crashed that and so ended small cars for us (atleast for now, i plan on building a 3 wheel electric vehicle which will be designed around me driving) i have heard the minis are good for taller people but they are out of my price range also.. i have wondered about the smart cars, they look like they might have a decent fit for us "taller" guys, but not so sure about the bigger guys. hmmmm
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03-31-2008, 12:54 PM
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I'm 6'2" long-legs and I drive a civic.
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03-31-2008, 02:07 PM
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i have heard the minis are good for taller people but they are out of my price range also.. i have wondered about the smart cars, they look like they might have a decent fit for us "taller" guys, but not so sure about the bigger guys. hmmmm
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New beetle.... A few years ago, there was a segment on NPR about cars for "those that are taller when sitting" (really, it was just for tall/big people). The winner - the New Beetle... It's a wonder why they didn't include that in those arch commercials from way back
But all that said... it's really not the outer dimensions of the car (for the most part). It's the interior design. I mean, the Hummer H2 is freaking huge - but the interior is cramped.... I owned a Mazda 626 a few years ago - my top half barely fit, but I had awesome knee room... Take the seats out of a neon - I'll bet just about everyone can say - ya, with a proper seat - I'd fit in here. 2008 Gallardo - "There is headroom enough for a mid-six-footer. It's easier to get into and out of than a Viper or even a Corvette" - and that's a short car
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03-31-2008, 02:10 PM
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I'm 6'3" and I was always able to find a comfortable driving position in every car I ever drove. That includes a 91 metro, a 04 Aveo and a 01 echo. I guess everyone has their own notion of comfortable though.
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03-31-2008, 03:30 PM
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^^^ thats true, comfort really does vary by each person^^^
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03-31-2008, 11:23 PM
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comfort for me means I fit and my shirt isn't being sat on my myself.... and my belt is keeping my pants on so that when I sit down my pant's are still on " One thing I like... Headroom. That's the only thing that will turn me away.
Mom's Caliber, your knees hit the knee bolster if you do this, but I jack the seat all the way up, and I've STILL got more headroom than my ZJ, and it's seats don't adjust, they are always all the way down. AND it sits shorter than my Jeep too. not too bad for a "compact" I do this cause I like to sit high up off the ground, and see the hood everything over it. You barely see the hood on the Caliber because it's got a higher slope than the ZJ, which is almost parallel with the pavement. A lot better for Aero though.
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04-01-2008, 12:07 AM
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I don't see why not improve the mileage of any rig. That being said, use it fer what it's built fer, not commuting, not getting groceries from the store, not... Etc.
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