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Old 05-23-2017, 08:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mitsubishi_Outlander_PHEV_cutaway_front.jpg

Here's the nut West Coast Customs need to crack. A boxy package that fits between the Mapherson strut towers. No worse than an Ardun heads on a Ford V-8.

I suggest replacing the Macpherson struts with rocker arms.

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Old 05-25-2017, 04:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The Outlander PHEV is a sibling to the i-MiEV, and the i-MiEV RWD drivetrain would almost certainly fit beneath that Mitsu Model A rear body all in one compact package. Of course, the PHEV has more panache and profit, so perhaps that's why they're taking the more challenging route.
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The Outlander PHEV is a sibling to the i-MiEV, and the i-MiEV RWD drivetrain would almost certainly fit beneath that Mitsu Model A rear body all in one compact package. Of course, the PHEV has more panache and profit, so perhaps that's why they're taking the more challenging route.
I don't know why the choice for the PHEV, but maybe they wanted something that could be perceived as less compromising than going all-electric.
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Old 05-28-2017, 09:42 PM   #14 (permalink)
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IIRC the Model T had only 2-speed.
Not to get into a historical argument but the model T had 3 unique gear ratios, 2 forward and 1 reverse. Ford himself called it a 3 speed hence the confusion .

You needed all 3 ratios to make it up certain hills you had to drive up in reverse because both forward gears were too high and reverse was "low"
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The three pedals on the floor of the Model T were for the brake on the right, reverse in the middle to make the Model T go backwards, and a pedal on the left to shift the gears from low to high speed. A lever on the floor worked the brakes as well as the clutch. Pulling the lever toward the driver would set the parking brake and help keep the car from moving while parked. When the lever was placed in the middle, the transmission would be in neutral.
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Not to get into a historical argument but the model T had 3 unique gear ratios, 2 forward and 1 reverse. Ford himself called it a 3 speed hence the confusion .

You needed all 3 ratios to make it up certain hills you had to drive up in reverse because both forward gears were too high and reverse was "low"
Indeed, and it can be quite confusing. I have already seen many delivery trucks (presumably they would fall into Class 5 there) going uphill on reverse to climb some alleys in hilly neighborhoods, but anyway, since it became more usual to mention only the forward gears, it's not totally wrong to quote the Ford Model T as having a 2-speed transmission.
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the 3-speeder is good if you have the additional "Muncie" Box, giving you 7 speeds one of them gears is having both gearboxes in reverse so you can creep up hills
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the 3-speeder is good if you have the additional "Muncie" Box, giving you 7 speeds one of them gears is having both gearboxes in reverse so you can creep up hills
I knew about a Ruckstell 2-speed rear axle that was sold as an accessory for the Ford Model T, but didn't know about auxiliary gearboxes.
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oh, the T had and still has a lot of aftermarket
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One of the reasons for backing up a steep hill in a Model T was fuel supply. They did not have a fuel pump and the tank was under the seat. By backing up a steep hill you still had fuel getting to the updraft carb. My best friend's dad had one when we were in high school, we drove it around every summer.

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