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Old 11-10-2017, 02:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Just for interest, the original Ford F-series pickup weighed about 3025-3250 lbs (depending on options), nowadays the F-150 runs 4,051 to 5,238 lbs, the F-350 5,909 to 6,989 lbs. Can't find prices for the F1s, though.

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Old 11-10-2017, 02:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm not going to try to find it but I saw a picture of a BMC Mini, a original BMW Mini, and a current Countryman Mini. The current BMW is to the original as the original is to the BMC predecessor.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yep. The new Mini --- isn't.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I see these comparisons always start with a little car but what if you started further back, and didn't focus on a name which is meaningless? Look say at the #1 selling Ford or Chevy and go back to the beginning, or just the best selling car period year by year. They started small, got bigger and bigger, then smaller, and now bigger again.
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Old 11-10-2017, 04:43 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Here you go!

Model T: 1908–27
Dimensions
Wheelbase 100.0 in (2,540 mm)
Length 134 in (3,404 mm)
Curb weight 1,200 pounds (540 kg)

Fiesta: 2017--
Wheelbase 2,493 mm (98.1 in)
Length 4,040 mm (159 in) (hatchback)
4,406 mm (173.5 in) (saloon)
Width 1,734 mm (68.3 in) (w/o mirrors)
Height 1,483 mm (58.4 in)
Curb weight 1,113–1,207 kg (2,454–2,661 lb)

I think that is all of them!
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Old 11-10-2017, 05:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So 100 years and about the same size.

Ps, although almost 3 times the weight! Bring back those wagon wheels and tires!
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Old 11-10-2017, 07:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I doubt the entire weight gain is from the wheels. Why don't you just put 26es on your car?

Narrower is better, right?
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Old 11-10-2017, 08:08 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think a perfect fitment for a VW Beetle would be 19" Model A wires, or 19" MG-TC wires with knockoffs, with BMW i3 Bridgeports.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:51 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Back probably over 20 years ago. Car & Driver did an article about how car prices were skyrocketing. They compared an Accord from maybe 10 or 12 years earlier with a then current Civic. Why? Because the Civic had grown over the years so that its size and weight were comparable to the older Accord.
That's not surprising.

The current 2017 Civic has the same weight, wheelbase and interior space as the 1997 Accord. (okay, the Accord has a *longer* trunk, and is thus longer, but the Civic has more cubic feet of trunk space).

And, adjusted for inflation, you get MORE car for your money with the 2017 Civic than you did with the 1997 Accord. Faster, too, with the 1.5 Turbo.
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Old 11-11-2017, 12:51 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Well the Accord one day be the size of an battleship, the Civic the size of a cruiser, and the Fit the size of a destroyer, with new smaller cars that are still larger than the original Accord?

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