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It seems that member title is awarded by post quantity not content...
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10-06-2022, 10:02 AM
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You might change it to some personal message like I did but I forget how. It's in the User CP but could be a minimum amount of posts and I have found a lot of options here are browser dependent. Worse case use chrome as a default.
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10-06-2022, 12:48 PM
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'thumbnails'
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N.b And I'm not a Master ecomodder, who changes this??!!
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* You'll be a 'master' soon enough!
* With the two images and 'qualitative' results:
It seems like the left image should depict a 'full' square-back wake, encompassing the entire rear of the structure.
The image to the right seems reasonable enough to a point.
The separated flow would arc down along a virtual 'golf ball' path, then, when it reached beyond 22-degrees of downslope, 'explode' into turbulence.
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10-06-2022, 02:04 PM
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I'll repeat the question.
Is the ground plane to the left? Is it a centerline section? What gives?
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10-06-2022, 04:10 PM
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wake
the wake for the shape on the left should look like this,
http://https://ecomodder.com/forum/m...here-money.jpg
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10-06-2022, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piotrsko
You might change it to some personal message like I did but I forget how. It's in the User CP but could be a minimum amount of posts and I have found a lot of options here are browser dependent. Worse case use chrome as a default.
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Thanks, I tried but it means filling stuff out, when I've got time I will do it
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10-06-2022, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard
I'll repeat the question.
Is the ground plane to the left? Is it a centerline section? What gives?
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Not everything is free. Try creating your own cfd enviroment, model some ideas and share them around
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10-06-2022, 05:24 PM
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ground plane
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard
I'll repeat the question.
Is the ground plane to the left? Is it a centerline section? What gives?
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1) The ground plane is out of sight, below the two images.
2) Flow is from the left, to right.
3) It may be 2-dimensional flow. Don't know.
4) For the left image, it's right ( downwind ) surface should be in total turbulence.
5) It's similar to the original Ahmed body on stilts, from around 1982.
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10-06-2022, 05:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead
* You'll be a 'master' soon enough!
* With the two images and 'qualitative' results:
It seems like the left image should depict a 'full' square-back wake, encompassing the entire rear of the structure.
The image to the right seems reasonable enough to a point.
The separated flow would arc down along a virtual 'golf ball' path, then, when it reached beyond 22-degrees of downslope, 'explode' into turbulence.
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Thanks, but the hardest work was not done by me. I just used it for my car, and I think they do work for already laminar flat areas.
A small improvement, surface area, mass and driving style still hold far more areas for increased efficiency.
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10-06-2022, 05:39 PM
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'for already laminar areas'
It does seem to be the case.
The only explanation I can come up with is that, the dimples 'DO' act as some form of VG, creating a lower local pressure along the 'boundary'.
With respect to the Mythbusters Ford sedan, they were able to induce the turbulent boundary layer to remain attached a bit better, minimizing the existing separation bubble, allowing enhanced flow reattachment, with higher pressure at the inevitable separation line.
Base pressure was slightly increased.
Pressure drag decreased.
Total drag reduced.
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