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Old 08-11-2011, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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non-moving aero grill blocks?

...just got my 1987 edition of HUCHO and while skimming through it, I thought about the patent(s) that Ford had on their new "belt" grills.

...has anybody studied the aero relationships between "sieve" and "shutter" effects of screen-mesh and flat-belt/bar grills?

• At what speed does a mesh-type grill (like the new Cadillac STS, etc.) switch over from acting like a sieve and begins to act like a shutter?

•Same question for the Ford bar grills?

...anybody know what the "describing" empirical equations might be for these two approaches to non-moving aero grill blocks?


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Old 08-11-2011, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There was a thread about that, sometime last year iirc. I'll try to find it.

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I remember that thread too. Pretty sure I posted this on that thread :



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...that's the one, but what's the "cross-over" speed where the air transitions from 'passage' to 'blockage'?

...any rule-of-thumb equation given? I didn't find one on the Ford Patent.
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In 1976,Ford of Cologne,Germany released info on their 'Lamellar' grille which was passive,allowing full airflow at low velocities,the choking the flow down with internal stalling around the grille elements.They claimed a 12% drag reduction,which is the 'typical' drag of the entire cooling system.
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...that's the one, but what's the "cross-over" speed where the air transitions from 'passage' to 'blockage'?

...any rule-of-thumb equation given? I didn't find one on the Ford Patent.
I don't recall that they actually ever said.Drat!

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