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Old 12-15-2023, 04:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OEM bricking of vehicle software

I came across the below story:

Polish Hackers Repaired Trains the Manufacturer Artificially Bricked. Now The Train Company Is Threatening Them

And thought about how more and more depend we are on (at the mercy of) OEMs and the software in their products.
Phones, trains, PCs, cars, etc.

There are already examples of OEMs being able to remotely enable/disable features and functions depending on whether we paid extra for them.

For me it is starting to be scary. Dystopias and such.
I like some of the features of new cars, like improved aerodynamics, but not all of the others.
I am not an orthodox ascetic, but my previous 2005 Pug already had more features than I wanted, its replacement (2013 PUG) has more. When I read about even newer cars I am overwhelmed with the gizmos, but also with its dependence on complicated software.
And as far as I don't like the difficulties in fixing and replacing the electronics, I am totally against hidden dependence on the whims of the OEM.

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I'd seen the story, but not the threats in retaliation.

Hacked = unsafe is either ignorant or disingenuous.

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