05-08-2011, 06:48 AM
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Plan to tax cars by the mile
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Obama administration floats draft plan to tax cars by the mile
By Pete Kasperowicz - 05/05/11 07:45 AM ET
Obama administration floats draft plan to tax cars by the mile - The Hill's Floor Action
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News of the draft follows a March Congressional Budget Office report that supported the idea of taxing drivers based on miles driven.
Among other things, CBO suggested that a vehicle miles traveled (VMT) tax could be tracked by installing electronic equipment on each car to determine how many miles were driven; payment could take place electronically at filling stations.
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What do you guys think of this ???
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05-08-2011, 10:00 AM
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Don't worry, will not happen.
Think about it, the thought of it will cause a revolt politically, that's why they are floating it to gauge response.
One of the greatest freedoms we have is to be able to go where we want, when we want; so anything that can be spun in such a way to compromise that will not fly.
To tax mileage is just to get the revenue up because tax receipts from other established means has been cut or dropping. Folks are burning less gas, less tax revenue. Demand has been dropping and stockpiles are going up. With all the "uncertainty" that regular folks have been experiencing, more people are taking a conservative line when it comes to spending and trimming budgets anyway they can.
On the face of it, it's good to us, but bad for the national economy, since it relies on people buying stuff they don't need. As more and more people get away from that mentality, then other ways are going to come to keep federal, state and local governments running. In this regard, the powers that be played themselves.
Could you just imagine this happening? Saving rates are up, credit card useage down, more people paying cash for items, home energy efficiency up, alternative energy use up, personal debt levels at an all time low. That scenario is what the big boys are worried about. No more feeding the beast.
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05-08-2011, 08:33 PM
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The big drawback is that any competent hacker could figure out how to beat the electronic monitoring :-)
So much easier - technically, politically, and administratively - just to raise the gas tax a few cents per gallon, which also gives people an incentive to buy more fuel-efficient vehicles.
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05-08-2011, 08:39 PM
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I have a plan to tax cars by the mile, it is called gas prices, it magically corrects for type of vehicle, driving habits and state of maintenance.
It is already installed in most cars as we speak. Obama sure is cunning to pull that off without us even noticing it.
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05-08-2011, 10:34 PM
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...OnStar™ currently provides GM (and thus Gov't) direct, realtime, recording of your milage already, with Chrysler and Ford soon to offer similar "services" in the name of "safety."
...so, BIG BROTHER rides "shotgun" whether you want him to or not!
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05-08-2011, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeyj
I have a plan to tax cars by the mile, it is called gas prices, it magically corrects for type of vehicle, driving habits and state of maintenance.
It is already installed in most cars as we speak. Obama sure is cunning to pull that off without us even noticing it.
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Big Government is nervous about losing a source of gasoline taxes from the huge 0.001% of vehicles on the road that are electric vehicles.
But it's a wonderful idea for us to give Big Government more money. Just think - pay a gasoline tax, then pay a mileage tax on top of that!
(I dare anyone to try to point out that a money-hungry largely useless parasite would not try to double-tax us fuel-using drivers...)
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05-08-2011, 11:52 PM
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...OnStar™ currently provides GM (and thus Gov't) direct, realtime, recording of your milage already, with Chrysler and Ford soon to offer similar "services" in the name of "safety."
...so, BIG BROTHER rides "shotgun" whether you want him to or no!
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remove the antenna.
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05-09-2011, 07:38 PM
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...simpler yet, just remove its FUZE.
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05-09-2011, 10:12 PM
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...simpler yet, just remove its FUZE.
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Even simpler, don't buy GM vehicles :-)
But for the more technically inclined, you mess with its inputs until it reports the miles &c that you want it to.
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05-18-2011, 08:08 PM
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Hmmm, which do I not like more:
1: That they'd be taxing me for using my property that I bought with my money that already got taxed twice by the time I bought the car.
2: That the gubment would know where you are at all times.
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