Prius Race Car? - Yep.

[pete c]

Originally Posted by eco_generator

I think you got a little confused. There is a SuperGT Prius race car... and a hybrid Prototype car Toyota is running in LeMans.

Oh. Reading comp never was my best area.

Regardless, I believe the TDI would stomp any gasser hybrid. The reason for this is I don't believe regen braking at the retina detaching levels required for such racing is efficient.

I could be wrong though. If such power storage is possible through really fancy capacitors, such a drivetrain might compete with the oil burner.

[kurzer]

braking in a racecar is to short and to hard for a proper regen, thats true. and immaterial for us.

[Ladogaboy]

My money is on the:

2013 Mitsubishi Evo XI - Best New Cars for 2012 - Popular Mechanics

[ncwa]

Originally Posted by Ladogaboy

My money is on the:

2013 Mitsubishi Evo XI - Best New Cars for 2012 - Popular Mechanics

Have you read about the 2011 GT3 R Hybrid Race Car! This is my new favorite race car! Although the Evo has a better chance at being slightly affordable!

[jamesqf]

[QUOTE=pete c;280912Regardless, I believe the TDI would stomp any gasser hybrid. The reason for this is I don't believe regen braking at the retina detaching levels required for such racing is efficient.

I could be wrong though. If such power storage is possible through really fancy capacitors, such a drivetrain might compete with the oil burner.[/QUOTE]

That's why Porsche uses flywheel storage in its hybrid race car. More efficient than batteries (and maybe capacitors), and can accept energy at any rate up to the point where wires start melting.

[Ladogaboy]

Originally Posted by ncwa

Have you read about the 2011 GT3 R Hybrid Race Car! This is my new favorite race car! Although the Evo has a better chance at being slightly affordable!

Yeah, I've heard of it... but I'm a bit biased. That, and, you're right, the EVO should be in the low $40,000s.

[tortoise]

Originally Posted by pete c

I believe the TDI would stomp any gasser hybrid.

Anytime you race two different types against one another, it depends on how the equivalence formula is defined. TDIs won Le Mans because the orgainizers wanted them to win.

[eco_generator]

Originally Posted by tortoise

Anytime you race two different types against one another, it depends on how the equivalence formula is defined. TDIs won Le Mans because the orgainizers wanted them to win.

I, of course, don't know the inner workings of the sanctioning body... but I think it's more of a case that they did not know what they were dealing with. Audi hit the nail on the head straight out of the gate. Each year the Audi was required to hold less fuel / limit it's horsepower / and or add weight to the car. By the end you had a TDI racecar that weighed quite a bit more with a smaller fuel tank making less horsepower... and it was still competitive with the brand new Puegots that were much faster in the dry (but it always rains at LeMans )

[pete c]

Originally Posted by tortoise

Anytime you race two different types against one another, it depends on how the equivalence formula is defined. TDIs won Le Mans because the orgainizers wanted them to win.

My point is that if the yardstick used is performance/mileage, the TDI will win against a gasser hybrid. Probably goes for a diesel hybrid as well since racing is about weight and i don't see a hybrid sytem having enough of a performance/efficiency gain to make much sense in a race environment.

[eco_generator]

Originally Posted by pete c

My point is that if the yardstick used is performance/mileage, the TDI will win against a gasser hybrid. Probably goes for a diesel hybrid as well since racing is about weight and i don't see a hybrid sytem having enough of a performance/efficiency gain to make much sense in a race environment.

Possibly, but people made the same argument about 4 wheel drive in rally racing.... and I think you know what happened with that.