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Old 02-28-2022, 12:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you apply the tenements of the controlling documents strictly, I can see why he would have never met a religious person. Lot of ersatz christians for example. I expect the same is true from all religions.
Yeah. John Lennon had the courage to broach the topic and offer actionable information. Bullets took care of that though.

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Old 02-28-2022, 03:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If you apply the tenements of the controlling documents strictly, I can see why he would have never met a religious person. Lot of ersatz christians for example. I expect the same is true from all religions.
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No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect their universal generalization from a falsifying counterexample by excluding the counterexample improperly. Rather than abandoning the falsified universal generalization or providing evidence that would disqualify the falsifying counterexample, a slightly modified generalization is constructed ad-hoc ...
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The wiki citation is not germane to the religious argument, especially in the context of Christianity. American 'Christianity' in particular. Where I reside.
For anyone who has read and understood the documents, they immediately recognize structural lifestyle limitations placed upon a 'Christian,' which generally cannot be exercised within the United States, by default.
Structurally, in 69-years, I've never 'met' a 'Christian.' In or out of 'church.' Including the home covenant churches of the extreme right.
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What 'matters' to most Americans has nothing to do with raw temperature data.
Within 72-hours, the media can completely change the American conversation.
That's been a fact since 1900.
Which Vladimir Putin just demonstrated quite clearly.
The idiotic climate change policy of pumping less oil sett this chain of events in motion.
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The wiki citation is not germane to the religious argument,
Argumentation opens the door.
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A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning, or "wrong moves", in the construction of an argument, which may appear stronger than it really is if the fallacy is not spotted. Some fallacies are committed intentionally to manipulate or persuade by deception, while others are committed unintentionally due to carelessness or ignorance.Wikipedia
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Do better.
I'm satisfied with where I'm at.
I've read a multiplicity of Bibles.
I hung on every word.
I've never experienced a church-goer or person of the cloth that actually lived as though they actually comprehended scripture.
It appears as though it's all been co-opted by Wall-Street.
Art of War.
Gods created by man.
Gods are no mystery in comparison to the men who created them.
People doing what people do.
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People doing what people do.
I can't disagree with that.
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So, our climate is warming.

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What do we do about it? Or should we? Can we even do something about it? Can we . . . ?

There are far more questions about simply stating that the world is warming.
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Or should we?
The adult decision would be to harden and ruggedize everything everywhere; proof against hot and cold.

Via today's S0, www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-28573-5
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It is well established that a collapse or strong reduction of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) would substantially cool the northern high latitudes. Here we show that there is a possibility that such cooling could be amplified under deliberate CO2 removal and result in a temporary undershoot of a targeted temperature level.
The problem is the time lag between the climate's cycles and any political response. As Marshall McLuhan said, we proceed into the future with our eyes on the rear-view mirror.

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