"Recycling can waste more resources"

[Dandaboy]

CD,

Unless you are truly evil, you probably feel that it is a morally right thing to do to feed a hungry person, yet unless you chose to do so yourself, there are arguments to the contrary

Individual effort by each person is how a huge difference is made. Before you buy something, ask yourself "how will I dispose of this when I'm done with it". The money is counted at the time of purchase. Until the recycling effort is also counted at that time, recycling profit won't count, unless there is government intervention.

[Xist]

Great points, Cd!

[Cd]

Two other things that were not mentioned in the video were "single stream" recycling, and that just how much of the recycling that 'just goes back to the landfill' is caused by a-holes that intentionally place things like soiled diapers ( and others disgusting things that I shall not mention ! ) / pizza boxes / left over half eaten food, etc. into the recycling bins.
I see it all the time.

With "single stream" recycling, you don't have to sort your trash - the city does it.
'Single stream' recycling was put into effect a year or two ago here in Austin, and it does have it's faults ( several - for instance the trash was hauled almost 100 miles to the sorting facility. )

Everything has to start off somewhere, and yes, recycling has not been perfected in over 40 years, but i hope this next generation changes that.

[freebeard]

I can't find a reference online but when Lane county decided source separation was too hard on people's little brains and implemented a centralized sorting facility (manufactured by Allison as I recall) it blew up.

But here's a story from this year in Shanghai: Shanghai garbage incineration plant explodes|Society|chinadaily.com.cn

I also notice the Lane Central Processing facility which finally let the hippies do their recycling (after years of keeping them in a ghetto under the railroad tracks) is still leery of propane bottles.

[Cd]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I also notice the Lane Central Processing facility which finally let the hippies do their recycling (after years of keeping them in a ghetto under the railroad tracks) is still leery of propane bottles.

I think people have this idea that recycling is something hippies do, and that this somehow makes it bad. They don't want to be associated with it.

If you recycle, you are a " filthy hippie ".

I don't understand how that people have so much hate for hippies.

[BrandonMods]

I have a question concerning the recycle-ability of plastics. Could it be that of the 40% of what is recyclable that is thrown away that is not just wanton laziness is actually recyclable. Some plastics are not clearly labeled, i.e. cheese wrappers, ziploc bags, sandwich bags, etc... What about these most certainly recyclable items that are easily overlooked.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by Cd

I don't understand how that people have so much hate for hippies.

Live for today? Anti-consumerist? Because they are right?
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[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by Cd

I don't understand how that people have so much hate for hippies.

I think it could be for much the same reason that some guys express so much hate for homosexuals: in a word, envy.

[Fat Charlie]

I don't have to refute your point or even justify mine if I can discount your very existence with name calling. After all, you're not a real American.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Cd

I don't understand how that people have so much hate for hippies.

I love hippies; just don't care for their stupidity.

I still recycle cardboard, among other pointless things, because I still have a mandatory recycling fee if I want garbage service. No wonder people use it as a dumpster if they are forced to pay for it, and the garbage can is smaller than the recycle. At least I don't every other week service like Portland, which also requires composting in addition to recycling and garbage service.

I'm still willing to perfectly sort through my recyclables if someone is willing to pick it up for free. Failing that, then it's pointless to recycle items that are cheaper to just make new. If it costs more to recycle something than make it from scratch, then it takes more energy. Consuming more energy is not environmentally friendly.