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aerohead 01-05-2023 04:02 PM

smoke flow images
 
if it links
https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs...us-cars-67417/

freebeard 01-05-2023 11:25 PM

Works for me. It's nice that they give frontal areas.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...44e-255719.jpg
http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment...ine=1343223372

That external duct over the back window appears to expand the streamline over the roof. Slows it down? Lowers the back pressure?

Piotrsko 01-06-2023 09:18 AM

How come all the flows disappear aft of the door? Looks pasted on something elses tunnels l pictures. I call BS.

aerohead 01-09-2023 10:23 AM

Focus 'external duct'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freebeard (Post 678725)
Works for me. It's nice that they give frontal areas.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...44e-255719.jpg
http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment...ine=1343223372

That external duct over the back window appears to expand the streamline over the roof. Slows it down? Lowers the back pressure?

This 'direct-downforce' Rally-Car spoiler creates:)
1) ultra-super velocity
2) all pressure recovery is lost
3) base pressure is lowered
4) pressure drag is increased
5) overall drag increases, from Cd 0.297, to Cd 0.36
6) a 63-count increase
7) a 21% drag increase
A really stupid thing to do to a car

aerohead 01-09-2023 10:25 AM

' door' ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotrsko (Post 678727)
How come all the flows disappear aft of the door? Looks pasted on something elses tunnels l pictures. I call BS.

I'm uncertain about what is meant by 'door.'

Piotrsko 01-09-2023 10:40 AM

Bottom 3 smoke tracers stop being visible aft of the passenger door trailing edge. One visible trace should have a burble after messing with the spoiler, it doesn't. Shouldn't EVEN have to comment about tracers disappearing at front.

aerohead 01-09-2023 10:48 AM

'passenger door'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotrsko (Post 678908)
Bottom 3 smoke tracers stop being visible aft of the passenger door trailing edge. One visible trace should have a burble after messing with the spoiler, it doesn't. Shouldn't EVEN have to comment about tracers disappearing at front.

I still don't know what you're talking about.
I don't see that happening in any of the photos.

kach22i 01-14-2023 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohead (Post 678712)

I knew that link looked familiar.;)

11-18-2013, 04:41 PM
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...-26678-16.html

kach22i 01-14-2023 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerohead (Post 678906)
This 'direct-downforce' Rally-Car spoiler creates:)
1) ultra-super velocity
2) all pressure recovery is lost
3) base pressure is lowered
4) pressure drag is increased
5) overall drag increases, from Cd 0.297, to Cd 0.36
6) a 63-count increase
7) a 21% drag increase
A really stupid thing to do to a car

https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs...us-cars-67417/
Quote:

Ford Focus RS
(A) 2,35 m²
(cd) 0,36
(cd × A) 0,86
at 200km/h
downforce front 8kg
lift rear 4kg
Been a long time since Ford made a 2-door Focus, looking around found some information on the 4-door RS Focus.

2016
The Ford Focus RS’s Aerodynamics Design
https://mk3focusrs.club/about-the-ca.../aerodynamics/
Quote:

Jamal explains: “We have been doing a lot of aerodynamics development using wind tunnels and just like the Shelby GT 350, our objective for the RS was zero lift at the rear and the front. That is quite a lofty goal in a sports hatchback.”
RE:
Quote:

A really stupid thing to do to a car
If we could find out the unmodified cars lift numbers perhaps we could define "stupid".

Maybe not too stupid if the unmodified car when "driven in anger" tends to leave the road or at least crosses the painted lines on the road.

aerohead 01-16-2023 10:32 AM

anger
 
The third of Pakistan's population under water will be thrilled to learn that driving in anger is more important than their lives.


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