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01-06-2023, 12:25 AM
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Works for me. It's nice that they give frontal areas.
http://www.miataturbo.net/attachment...ine=1343223372
That external duct over the back window appears to expand the streamline over the roof. Slows it down? Lowers the back pressure?
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How come all the flows disappear aft of the door? Looks pasted on something elses tunnels l pictures. I call BS.
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Focus 'external duct'
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This 'direct-downforce' Rally-Car spoiler creates
1) ultra-super velocity
2) all pressure recovery is lost
3) base pressure is lowered
4) pressure drag is increased
5) overall drag increases, from Cd 0.297, to Cd 0.36
6) a 63-count increase
7) a 21% drag increase
A really stupid thing to do to a car
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' door' ?
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How come all the flows disappear aft of the door? Looks pasted on something elses tunnels l pictures. I call BS.
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I'm uncertain about what is meant by 'door.'
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Bottom 3 smoke tracers stop being visible aft of the passenger door trailing edge. One visible trace should have a burble after messing with the spoiler, it doesn't. Shouldn't EVEN have to comment about tracers disappearing at front.
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'passenger door'
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Bottom 3 smoke tracers stop being visible aft of the passenger door trailing edge. One visible trace should have a burble after messing with the spoiler, it doesn't. Shouldn't EVEN have to comment about tracers disappearing at front.
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I still don't know what you're talking about.
I don't see that happening in any of the photos.
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01-14-2023, 06:48 AM
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I knew that link looked familiar.
11-18-2013, 04:41 PM
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...-26678-16.html
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead
This 'direct-downforce' Rally-Car spoiler creates
1) ultra-super velocity
2) all pressure recovery is lost
3) base pressure is lowered
4) pressure drag is increased
5) overall drag increases, from Cd 0.297, to Cd 0.36
6) a 63-count increase
7) a 21% drag increase
A really stupid thing to do to a car
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https://www.miataturbo.net/insert-bs...us-cars-67417/
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Ford Focus RS
(A) 2,35 m²
(cd) 0,36
(cd × A) 0,86
at 200km/h
downforce front 8kg
lift rear 4kg
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Been a long time since Ford made a 2-door Focus, looking around found some information on the 4-door RS Focus.
2016
The Ford Focus RS’s Aerodynamics Design
https://mk3focusrs.club/about-the-ca.../aerodynamics/
Quote:
Jamal explains: “We have been doing a lot of aerodynamics development using wind tunnels and just like the Shelby GT 350, our objective for the RS was zero lift at the rear and the front. That is quite a lofty goal in a sports hatchback.”
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RE:
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A really stupid thing to do to a car
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If we could find out the unmodified cars lift numbers perhaps we could define "stupid".
Maybe not too stupid if the unmodified car when "driven in anger" tends to leave the road or at least crosses the painted lines on the road.
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