11-22-2017, 06:16 PM
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The price is in-line with self-assembled kit cars, but what about a production vehicle? Can he deliver a wider car with doors, etc. for less than the Arcimoto?
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11-22-2017, 07:42 PM
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Judging from the bike shipping, the car will have a $2000 shipping charge.
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11-24-2017, 09:35 PM
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The Sondors looks too much like the Elio to me. Elio got $100.00 out of me for a T-Shirt and bumper sticker. Having the bad taste still in my mouth from Elio, the Sondors is going to need to be in full production before I would ever consider it, and it would need to show me how it is better than any of my Prius (Prii.)
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11-25-2017, 12:00 AM
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On the one hand, Elio set the bar low, on the other hand, legitimate companies need to overcome their stigma.
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12-02-2017, 01:50 PM
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Sonders seems to have extra space that I want. I had that German City-el EV when Elio began. That City-el is not sold in the US and it barely had room. This waiting game for a 3-wheel vehicle is too long and too hard on the nerves! I hope Sonders makes it on time.
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01-17-2018, 09:04 AM
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01-17-2018, 12:57 PM
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Sonders is way too much like the parade of three-wheel vehicle builders wanting money first and foremost. At least 4 tried since 2007. Elioism is catchy!
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01-30-2018, 01:55 AM
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"Having bypassed investment in a cumbersome manufacturing infrastructure, once engineering and tooling is complete, we believe we will be positioned to begin assembling vehicles as early as April 2019."
Nice double speak there. 
Elio all over again. You cannot build a low-volume car with ABS, airbags, HVAC, and windows (powered or crank) and sell it at a profit for $10,000. |
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01-30-2018, 03:39 AM
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I've read "15 degrees." I'd go for the Elio, but it needs a rear door for us senior citizens.
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01-30-2018, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Grant-53
A taper angle of 22 degrees in a boat tail is recommended. From "Aerodynamics of Road Vehicles" 5th Ed. pg 312
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I've read "15 degrees." I'd go for the Elio, but it needs a rear door for us senior citizens
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