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Old 02-08-2019, 07:07 PM   #41 (permalink)
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The interesting part of that link for me was the history of the concept prior to Fuller in 1966.

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Jesus defined wealth with other measuring sticks.
People of wealth often take the fruit of efforts by their "lessers" for themselves. Even worse, people (many people) with little nest-eggs "for their latter days", have the rich take their nest-eggs. Presently, I have 3 nest-eggs..... all three that future events, unable to be predicted, could make go away. Of course, wealth or riches or nest-eggs never protect from one's death (most often unpredicted?)..... which freebeard & buckminister fuller considered to be predictable?

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Give an example.

R. B. 'Bucky' Fuller was not a lower case kind of guy like you and me. It doesn't sound like you know about his New England Transcendentalist roots. He would consider wealth to be physical only when it embodies metaphysical wealth aka intellectual property.

He was more about the one person who innovates being the one who supports tens of thousands of others. Not about hoarding treasures.

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What are we talking about here? Statistics or clairvoyance?
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Jesus defined wealth with other measuring sticks.
People of wealth often take the fruit of efforts by their "lessers" for themselves. Even worse, people (many people) with little nest-eggs "for their latter days", have the rich take their nest-eggs. Presently, I have 3 nest-eggs..... all three that future events, unable to be predicted, could make go away. Of course, wealth or riches or nest-eggs never protect from one's death (most often unpredicted?)..... which freebeard & buckminister fuller considered to be predictable?
Please provide some examples of wealthy people taking the fruit of others efforts in the most common ways this occurs. I'm especially curious about those who are robbed of their retirement from the wealthy.

Of course the future is unpredictable for all people; it's just that those with more means and preparation are better situated to overcome adversity when it eventually comes their way.

Death is predictable in that it's inevitable, there's boundaries for the duration, and probabilities for what that duration will be.
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I distinguish between taking money, and convincing others to give money. I'd also distinguish between true believers, and those that know they are bilking people, though how are we to tell them apart?
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The blind are often not the unsighted, but those who blow smoke.
In some Western nations, such as Brazil and the United Kingdom, the wealthiest 10 percent actually pay a lower portion of their income in taxes than the poorest 10 percent.
Stock options & bonus's are available to only defined executives.
The stock market can reward investment by an 1800+:1 ratio(more?). Not excited by those ratios, other stock market "non-earning" hedge fund schemes pour trillions of dollars into already rich pockets.
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I can still remember waking up one morning and hearing about Sputnik (on my new transistor AM radio) before I went downstairs for breakfast.

Watching the booster coming in hot was, for me, equal to the view of the first Falcon Heavy going up.

Mars before the end of the next Presidential term? It's all up to Gwynne Shotwell. She's the one making it happen.

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