Super oil filter=better mpg?

[Quasimoto]

Has anyone had any experience with the "Electro-Lube Green" oil filter. It's been around for years, mostly in truck fleets though. It constantly refines the oil so you never have to change it again; only change the filter every 25,000 miles. They claim an increase in MPG by using it. Sounds feasible, since your always driving with fresh oil, less friction, less wear, more MPG.
Electro-Lube Green - AG Van & Truck Equipment

[gone-ot]

...do any of the following words conjure up further thoughts about the answer?

* smoke & mirrors
* P. T. Barnum
* perpetual motion magnets
* "...a word from your Congressman/woman..."
* "...trust me!"

[Frank Lee]

Less friction? Less wear?

I have an '84 Tempo with almost 300,000 miles on it, and all it's ever gotten was a diet of cheap oil and cheap (and oh so awful ) Fram filters. It still runs good but the body is rusting apart. How much less friction and wear do you want?

[rmay635703]

That isn't really PT barnum, BUT they are leaving something VERY important out.

Although you can keep the oil physically clean (remember the oil recyclers can recycle oil many times)

The additives in the oil wear out and then the oil itself wears out and turns into hydrochloric acid, I would estimate you can see this as a problem.

There are toilet paper filters on the market that can reclaim oil but then you also have to add additive packages (which are hard to find but still around)
and recycle your own oil. A lot of work normally

Also there is one lifetime oil change company out there that makes lifetime 50wt fully sythetic made motor oil. (its not the normal type, considered grade 6 whatever that means) It lasts about 100,000 miles between changes but requires a filter change and top off every 10k. They also sell an additive package that should be used with the product.

Both the above are possible but I find them distastefull because of the extra risk involved and the fact that they really aren't lifetime either. The cost to benefit ratio is actually poor because of the unmentioned costs associated.

Cheers
Ryan

[Quasimoto]

I asked for info, not sarcasm. Does anyone have any factual info on this product? If not, please just let this post die in piece.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Quasimoto

I asked for info, not sarcasm. Does anyone have any factual info on this product? If not, please just let this post die in piece.

I didn't think I was being sarcastic.

Bypass filtration is a very old idea and can extended change intervals, double? I don't know, but I doubt that is a good idea. My father had bypass filtration on his old motor home and it worked well enough but he still changed the oil every 8-10k or so. Bypass of coarse works best on vehicles (or tractors) that are in dusty, dirty or wet environments.

Bobistheoilguy probably has a realistic review if you want less biased oppinions.

If you used that filter with
No Oil Change with SynLube™ Lube-4-Life®

you might be in business, they have been around since the 60's also.

Their oil requires new filters and a "top off" additive package occasionally.

As I said these things are legitimate but I think they may be exaggerating the change period, I have know of people to push the change period very far without issues but personally I would not risk much past 15k with synthetic and that filter. Heck even 10-12k is getting there.

Cheers
Ryan

[Laurentiu]

if there was a real way of bringing back to life to old/burnt oil, I'm sure McDonald's/KFC/etc. would've figured it out by now, it would've saved them a fortune

[comptiger5000]

Given really good filtration, and good oil, you can definitely keep it longer. It's not always worth it though. It depends on how much longer you'd be able to run the oil before it is actually worn out. Diesels tend to dump more crap in the oil, but produce less acids, thus this type of system benefits them more. In addition, it takes a while to wear out 30+ quarts of oil.

[MadisonMPG]

Originally Posted by Quasimoto

I asked for info, not sarcasm. Does anyone have any factual info on this product? If not, please just let this post die in piece.

Yes, and it was given with sarcasm.

This is a no buy.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by Laurentiu

if there was a real way of bringing back to life to old/burnt oil, I'm sure McDonald's/KFC/etc. would've figured it out by now, it would've saved them a fortune

Actually they all know how to bring back oil a few times, after they reprocess & separate spent cooking oil to get garbage out of it they make it into Partially Hydrogenated oil.

That is one reason amoung many why partially hydrogenated oil is very bad for you, its made from poor quality oil.