Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-26-2016, 06:41 PM   #41 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
It was pretty windy on the return trip that it blew out the left rear wheel skirt.


I guess it's time to build a new set.

__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to BamZipPow For This Useful Post:
aerohead (12-03-2016)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 11-27-2016, 01:57 PM   #42 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,557
Thanks: 8,092
Thanked 8,882 Times in 7,329 Posts
Maybe if they were bungeed like a front wheel skirt, they would percolate instead of blowing clear off.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (11-28-2016)
Old 11-28-2016, 12:11 PM   #43 (permalink)
halos.com
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 528

ECONORAM - '07 Dodge RAM 1500 QC SLT flex-fuel
90 day: 18.16 mpg (US)

the Avenger - '08 Dodge Avenger SXT
90 day: 27.06 mpg (US)
Thanks: 385
Thanked 94 Times in 80 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to ECONORAM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamZipPow View Post
Well...not exactly sure how much the side skirts on their own contribute to my gas mileage. Haven't played around with the height of the side skirts yet...maybe that might be something to look at once I git the conveyor belt material in.

I've entered my fuel data and the various mods from the first day I got my current T-100. I've separated out each years worth so you can see which direction I've gone so far...
1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 Gas Mileage (BZP T-100 current (2013)) - EcoModder.com
On the side skirt saga, I was using a piece of 6" high corroplast for quite some time. Had difficulty getting it to quit flapping while on the road though. Never tore off. Had two 1/4" bolts about 6 inches from each end holding it on.
Changed that about a year ago to a sort of corroplast box design. I'll try to add a picture sometime. The 90* bends seem to help stiffness a lot.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ECONORAM For This Useful Post:
aerohead (12-03-2016), BamZipPow (11-28-2016)
Old 11-28-2016, 03:04 PM   #44 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
Maybe if they were bungeed like a front wheel skirt, they would percolate instead of blowing clear off.
The rear wheel skirt was screwed 4 places, bolted in 2 places and ziptied in the front. All fasteners were ripped out.
__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to BamZipPow For This Useful Post:
aerohead (12-03-2016)
Old 11-28-2016, 09:52 PM   #45 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,557
Thanks: 8,092
Thanked 8,882 Times in 7,329 Posts
What was the failure mode? Ground strike or air pressure? Did the mounts, fasteners or skirt fail?

I ask because I found my fiberglass skirts that need a new mounting method. It came with three gripping fingers.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2016, 11:54 AM   #46 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
What was the failure mode? Ground strike or air pressure? Did the mounts, fasteners or skirt fail?

I ask because I found my fiberglass skirts that need a new mounting method. It came with three gripping fingers.
I think the front mount and ziptie failed and when the air caught the front edge, it ripped the rest of the fasteners out.

I was overdue fer a rear wheel skirt rebuild so this was just good timing.
__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2016, 03:04 PM   #47 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,557
Thanks: 8,092
Thanked 8,882 Times in 7,329 Posts
My plan is two sockets at the lower front and rear and a cam-lock at the center top.

The skirts will have a vertical 3/4" tab and the fender will have a section of 3/4" tube with a single slot at 45°. The skirt is offered up at an angle and the tabs are trapped between the top and bottom of the tubes when it is rotated into position.

The cam lock might be from a old Type II gas flap door; then I could use an OG church-key.

If your skirt overlaps the fender, maybe put a fin inside that follows the front lip of the wheelwell so it blocks the air if it does bow out?

Last edited by freebeard; 12-01-2016 at 03:09 PM..
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (12-01-2016)
Old 12-03-2016, 02:44 PM   #48 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,272
Thanks: 24,394
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
bye-bye skirts

Katrina took my front passenger skirt back in 2005,heading west towards Tucson.I aborted the trip and headed home with my tail between my legs.
The newer all-metal skirts are holding together but will 'dance',and rock-hauler bow/stern wakes at 75-mph,on two-lanes, and close distance,head-on will trash.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (12-03-2016)
Old 12-03-2016, 06:12 PM   #49 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,557
Thanks: 8,092
Thanked 8,882 Times in 7,329 Posts
Underlap the skirt and dog it down like a submarine hatch.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
aerohead (12-05-2016), BamZipPow (12-04-2016)
Old 12-05-2016, 04:27 PM   #50 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,272
Thanks: 24,394
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
skirt dancing

I'd eventually like to have electro-magnets hold them,and a circuit which goes open if I turn the wheel beyond a specified degree.In an emergency,I could quickly pull off the road without fear of tires being captured inside the skirts.

__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (12-07-2016)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com