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'template' in contemporary aerodynamic literature
Hucho discusses the 'template' in his second edition. I've already provided all the citations.
Anyone reading the book in 1987,or after would already have had access to the theory and the off-the-shelf technology. As long as Paris Dressmakers dominate design,it doesn't matter what's published. With or without a template. All an aerodynamicist can do,is submit data to the committee that will be making the decisions and spelling out the specifications.And those folks have been concentrating on hedonic adaptation since 1926 or so.They're the ones who killed off the 'template.' I believe that they'd prefer that the 'template' remain 'killed.' Alfred P. Sloan Jr. wrote a book on it. |
A book that is 33 years old is not 'contemporary aerodynamic literature'.
If the shape of the template is the best for drag, I'd have expected many references to it in current aero tech literature. I know of no such references. That says to me that you are over-simplifying your analysis, as it applies to road cars. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. |
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2006 Mitsubishi i 2008 M-B Bionic Boxfish 2010 Kia Ray concept 2010 Honda FCX Clarity 2010 BMW Vision Efficient Dynamics 2010 Vauxhall/Opel Flextreme GT-E 2011 SAAB Phoenix 2011 Tata Jaguar, 75-Anniversary C-X75 2011 Ford Evos 2012 Scion/ Aston Martin iQ/ Cygnet. 2012 Prius-V 2012 Toyota FT-Bh 2012 SolarWorld GT 2012 Honda Insight-II 2012 Subaru/Scion BRZ/-F 2013 Cambrige University CUER Eco Racer 2013 Mitsubishi Concept CA-MiEV 2013 McLAREN X-1 2013 Hyundai Veloster 2013 Honda AC-X Plug-in 2014 Chevrolet Spark 2014 Renault EOLAB 2014 Cadillac CTS V sport 2015 BMW i8 2015 Mitsubishi Mirage 'G' 2015 Ford C-Max Energi 2015 Alfa Romeo 4C 2015 Buick Riviera 2015 Chevrolet Corvette 2016 Hyundai Ioniq 2016 M-B IAA 2017 Chevrolet Bolt 2017 Acura NSX 2018 Nissan-Renault Alliance Alpine A100 2018 McLAREN 720S 2018 KIA Stinger GT 2019 McLAREN Speedtail 2020 Tesla Roadster ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ' If we were to design the cars 100% streamlined,following all the aerodynamic principles,would not all the cars look exactly alike and the designers have nothing to do?' H. Schmude, General Motors Corporation, to, Walter Korff,Lockheed Aircraft Company, Automobile Engineering Congress, 1963, Re. SAE Transactions, Volume 72,Page 592, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hucho targeted 'designers' with his textbooks. Anyone who's read his books, whom possesses any perspicacity, will be fully aware of the 'template.' Since the existence of the 'template' threatens their very existence,do you believe that they would openly discuss it? That we even have to discuss it here on an obscure website,underscores a complete failure on the part of public education,worldwide. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As to Adrian Gaylord. Jaguar has produced a Cd 0.26 vehicle? Quite an accomplishment,considering that Opel had a production Cd 0.26 in 1989. And R.G.S. White gave us a free recipe for Cd 0.245 as of 1969. |
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In fact, this is becoming more than a bit ridiculous.
The last two cars on your list: 2020 Tesla Roadster and 2019 McLaren Speedtail. And according to you, they're meant to have the same shape? And that's like your template? Well, which one is? It can't be both - let alone all the other cars on your list. https://i.postimg.cc/PqKbsTdz/compared.png (Happy for someone with better software skills than I to overlay them.) |
I mean at some stage you need to talk about the emperor's clothes - especially in a situation when people are actually spending money, time and energy trying to implement this stuff.
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Over the template and each other: (highest point to highest point)
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Scaled to actual lengths would be most appropriate wouldn’t it?
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I doubt the tesla and mclaren are anywhere near the same size but I don't think scale is relative to the shape in the context of "the template" |
Wikipedia gives 5137mm for the length of the Speedtail, but for the Roadster I only found an estimate 4382mm (translated from 172.5"). That would put these images within 2% of each other relative to real size.
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