Go Back   EcoModder Forum > AltModding > Saving@Home
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-31-2023, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Corporate imperialist
 
oil pan 4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,268

Sub - '84 Chevy Diesel Suburban C10
SUV
90 day: 19.5 mpg (US)

camaro - '85 Chevy Camaro Z28

Riot - '03 Kia Rio POS
Team Hyundai
90 day: 30.21 mpg (US)

Bug - '01 VW Beetle GLSturbo
90 day: 26.43 mpg (US)

Sub2500 - '86 GMC Suburban C2500
90 day: 11.95 mpg (US)

Snow flake - '11 Nissan Leaf SL
SUV
90 day: 141.63 mpg (US)
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
Un ecomod my dish washer pls

Newer dishwashers are junk.
I have a newer Kenmore elite dishwasher.
Man this thing is useless on the normal and eco settings.
Eco is trash, some how make clean dishes dirty.
After lots of observation this is how the settings break down.
There's 2 water levels full and water saver.
There's a pre wash, wash where the soap door opens and a rinse.

I found that washing down the inside and pumping it out helped, at the very least it got hot water to the dishwasher and got rid of anything weird growing in the bottom of the sump.
The filter screen gets nasty have to pull out the racks and clean it just about daily or it will trun funky and clogs up with minerals from our hard water. So I pulled that. That caused the spay bars to clog if I didn't get all the old food off. Started to let the dogs lick dishes clean. Dogs use almost zero water and get the dishes 97% clean, they get all the big chunks.
I could get better results if I stopped it and manually rinsed down the inside during the prewash pump out and added water to the water saver steps.
And catch the rinse and throw in some citric acid.

Brief descriptions of various settings:

Eco setting is the most useless. Might as well pick out the few acceptably clean ones and run it again, because they might come out dirty next time.
Here is it's cycle breakdown.
Prewash is a water saver. The water saver cycle is so short adding soap is a waste of soap.
Wash is a full water.
Rinse is a water saver.
Each step is like 15 minutes. Doing manual rinse downs and adding water to the water saver steps helped a lot.

Normal, normally only cleans half the dishes. Migh as well run it twice. At least it won't make clean dishes dirty.
It's a water saver prewash, prewash is so short adding soap is a waste.
Wash is full water, use max soap.
2 water saver rinses.
Steps are a little bit longer, wash is longer and 2 rinses definitely make it take a lot longer.
Manual rinse down between steps adding water to water saver steps made it almost reliable at producing cleaned dishes.

Pots and pans the only useable setting. Between one and zero items need rewash, only items that consistently need rewash are peanut butter knives and spoons that weren't treated with k9.
Prerinse is full water, longer than normal and eco, adding some soap down in the sump on start up definitely helps.
Wash is full water and really long. Maximum soap.
2 full water rinses at the end, throw in citric acid for no spots rinse.
Only actual pots and pans need a manual rinse down after the prewash.

__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.

Last edited by oil pan 4; 08-31-2023 at 05:40 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 08-31-2023, 05:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,815

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,327
Thanked 4,480 Times in 3,445 Posts
I was the dishwasher when I was a kid. I feel like dishwashers don't save any time.

I spend an hour or so every day loading and unloading the dishwasher, plus whatever pots/pans don't fit. Seems I could just wash all those dishes in that hour.

Mine is decent. A cycle takes about 90 minutes though.

I switched to powder after watching this video; but mostly because a box of it is $5 at Walmart
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2023, 06:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,711
Thanks: 8,150
Thanked 8,928 Times in 7,371 Posts
"The best dishwasher is no dishwasher" -- Elon Musk (allegedly)
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2023, 07:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,815

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,327
Thanked 4,480 Times in 3,445 Posts
... and the best garage door is no garage door.

I've got the torsion bar and pieces spread out on the garage floor awaiting parts to arrive while the car lives outside.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2023, 10:59 AM   #5 (permalink)
Somewhat crazed
 
Piotrsko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,429
Thanks: 541
Thanked 1,207 Times in 1,064 Posts
Be happy it isn't a lever arm opening mechanism that failed. Those take out the whole door also.
__________________
casual notes from the underground:There are some "experts" out there that in reality don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Piotrsko For This Useful Post:
redpoint5 (09-01-2023)
Old 09-08-2023, 01:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
JSH
AKA - Jason
 
JSH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,601

Adventure Seeker - '04 Chevy Astro - Campervan
90 day: 17.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 325
Thanked 2,147 Times in 1,454 Posts
We got a new Samsung dishwasher about 2 years ago. Not the cheapest / not the most expensive - I think is was about $800 and I was surprise to find that included installation.

It works great. With the old dishwasher that came with the house we basically had to wash the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. The new one we just scrape any large chunks into the trash and then load the dishwasher.

The cycle is so quiet I have a hard time hearing that it is even running. We just use the "auto" cycle and after about 90 minutes the dishes are clean and the door pops open to air dry. I generally run it at night so by morning the dishes are clean and dry.

We had thought about getting on of the dual drawer dishwashers that are more popular in Europe to eliminated the step of putting dishes away but couldn't justify spending twice as much - especially since we didn't need the space.

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
redpoint5 (09-08-2023)
Reply  Post New Thread


Tags
dishwasher





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com