09-12-2015, 01:26 AM
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An electric radiator fan is a 'maybe' in terms of efficiency. Converting fuel to electricity and back to kinetic energy isn't efficient, compared to a simple mechanical fan and clutch. If you can loose the belt you may see a gain, if your car is such that the belt's needed to run something else, there won't be much in it.
I did a rear axle to bumper pan on my van, it was super easy and the dirtiest part of the underside. The airdam probably diverts enough air that a forward pan would be of little benefit.
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09-12-2015, 01:29 PM
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An electric radiator fan is a 'maybe' in terms of efficiency. Converting fuel to electricity and back to kinetic energy isn't efficient, compared to a simple mechanical fan and clutch. If you can loose the belt you may see a gain, if your car is such that the belt's needed to run something else, there won't be much in it.
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An electric fan leads to faster warm-up times, which is already advantageous as the engine reaches its optimum temperature sooner, and the fan drive is usually lighter and has less friction losses, so it's not a bad deal at all.
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09-12-2015, 02:24 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I do pull the trailer around every couple days. I leave it on site when possible. It is my shop and all my sales gear is in the van. All my samples and all that stay in the van. I could fill in a bit between the van and trailer. Boar tail wouldnt be an option though. The trailer has a ramp rear door so I could do a camback. Hmm lots of options. Is it worth doing a belly pan with an air dam?
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Realistically,I can't imagine any meaningful mpg improvements without extremely radical changes,the exact kinds of changes which would impact your customary day to day use of the rig.
It's gotta look like a moon-shot.
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09-12-2015, 02:36 PM
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I am feeling your pain man! A work vehicle is hard. You walk the fine line between efficient vehicle travel, and efficient production. A smaller more fuel efficient vehicle might help, but if it requires making an extra trip, then it is a loss overall.
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09-13-2015, 02:32 AM
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A smaller more fuel efficient vehicle might help, but if it requires making an extra trip, then it is a loss overall.
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Blame it on the NHTSA for the American vans being kinda oversized in a comparison to Asian and European vans of similar cargo capacities.
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09-13-2015, 04:23 AM
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Yup. And heavy.
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09-13-2015, 05:30 PM
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Yup. And heavy.
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Some folks in America still think a good commercial vehicle is a gas hog, but many Euro and Jap mid-size vans have a comparable capability to an American full-size van in a lighter and more compact package, which also enhances the maneuvering in tight spaces and in some cases also leads to a better off-road capability.
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