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Old 11-06-2019, 06:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Verge TS hubless in-wheel electric motorcycle

https://rmkvehicles.com/newsfeed/2019/11/5/on-the-vergenbspof-changenbspnbsptsnbsp-nbspteemu-saukkio

The more I look at it, the more my mind is blown.
The motor is in the rim. And look at how the rear fender is mounted...

I hope they have a practical solution for changing and balancing tires though. And I wonder if the exposed power cables will last and be safe enough.

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Old 11-06-2019, 12:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So the motor is what we call an outrunner. Good choice for torque. Looks like 8 bolts holding the tire/ fender on, quick change connectors on the wiring. Looks like your leg protects the wires when ridden. I'm so over hubless.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks, that made me look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outrunner.

Coils on the fixed inside, magnet ring rotating outside.
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Ah ha! Finally a vehicle mass and speed appropriate application for a hub motor.

The exposed power cables are safe enough. The drive can shut down at the slightest hint of a ground fault or short.
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And the bearings styles may allow it to last longer
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I am unaware of any complaints about hub motors not lasting long enough in a bike application.
It's a lot more bearing surface, which is good but also that sealing edge is huge and a lot closer to all the dirt and water you don't want in there.

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