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Old 05-10-2008, 11:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Where can I find the .Cd of some of the cars in the article ? Does it say anything in the article about the .Cds of the cars ?

I only saw one .Cd figure.


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I just glanced through that website real quickly just now. WOW!!!

Some of those vehicles were fantastic looking aesthetically and really seemed to be much more streamlined than some of today's rides....it's amazing to see where car design came from and where it is today.
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Where can I find the .Cd of some of the cars in the article ? Does it say anything in the article about the .Cds of the cars ?

I only saw one .Cd figure.
The Sclor Pillbug car had a CD of 0.13, or about half of the best of today's production cars.

The process is simple: Using inverse methods, start with lofting lines the air is happy to follow, then work inward to design the vehicle accordingly.
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Here's a good picture of the Pillbug:


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Hi,

Here's a front view of the Maybach:

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I think the Pillbug would make a great Aptera family-sedan model.

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Hello,

Yes, an the Pillbug beats the Aptera 2e for Cd! 0.13 vs 0.15 It seats 7; not just 4! Wow, it is waaaay ahead of it's time!

It has awkward doors (for the driver in particular) and zero front crush zone.
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basically carmakers are still shaving the corners of a box rather than looking for ways to attach wheels and seats to a drop shape.
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Too bad we cannot get a custom body builder on this site.

I think a prototype "pillbug" could be built on a S-10 chassis, or a bigger one (SUV of the future?) on a pickup chassis.

Yeah, the driver would be moved back, but that is not the prmary thing.

From a manufacturer's standpoint the Carden drive is doable but rear engine layouts will not pass collision standards.
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