02-21-2009, 09:24 AM
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List of "typical" electrical loads in a modern car
We often talk about modding the electrical/charging system to reduce engine load. I happened across a quality source of power demands from various vehicle systems, and thought I would post it.
The list below summarizes the major subsystems (and loads) of the automotive electrical/electronic content of a modern (2006) automobile in the following categories:
- Engine management
- Multimedia and heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC)
- Body electronics
- Chassis electrification
- Lighting (exterior and interior)
- Future systems
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Engine Management Power (W)
Fuel Pumps Injectors 135
Ignition System 60
Electronic Throttle Sys. 60
Sensors a Actuators 110
Solenoids & Relays 20
Subtotal Engine 385
Amps @ 14.2V 27.11
Chassis Electrification Power (W)
Electric assist steering 300
ABS brake system 200
Air suspension valves 50
Air compressor 500
Subtotal Chassis 1050
Amps @ 14.2V 73.94
Charging System Power (W)
Alternator 3000
Battery (80 Ah) 1000
Starter motor 2200
Multimedia & HVAC Power (W)
High end audio sys. 300
Navigation and GPS 150
Driver information display 30
Cabin climate valves 75
Blower motor + ECU 370
Subtotal Cabin Sys. 925
Amps @ 14.2V 65.14
Lighting (Exterior & Interior) Power (W)
Headlamps (2) 120
Running/Park lights (4) 130
Turn signal lamps 130
Center high mount stop 65
Back-up, interior, license 45
Subtotal lighting 490
Amps @ 14.2V 34.51
Body Electrical Power(W)
Power Windows (4) 560
Power Door Locks (4) 200
Wipers and washers 140
Heated backlight 500
Power seats (2) 460
Subtotal Body Sys. 1860
Amps @ 14.2V 130.99
Future Systems Power(W)
DVD and in-seat displays
MicroJMild-hybrid functions
Active suspension
Frontyrear radar
Obstacle detection & Airbags
Active cruise control
Total Electrical/Electronics 4710
Source of the figures is an article about the increasing complexity & demands on vehicle electrical systems and how to mitgate this.
See more:
Accessory overload threatens auto power budgets: Part 1, burgeoning loads and transients | Automotive DesignLine
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02-23-2009, 03:56 PM
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I don't know of too many vehicles with air suspension, plus GPS & Nav, plus electric power steering and brakes, plus all-electric everything...
That said, the basic point is still valid; there's a whole lot of electrical stuff in today's cars!! That's one more reason why I drive yesterday's.
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02-23-2009, 04:01 PM
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Thats a great list Metro. I always knew constant draw from an engine was around 25-30A. This proves it.
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02-23-2009, 04:30 PM
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Ha! Maybe YOUR engine!
I'd still like to stick an ammeter on the Flea and get a true reading. I'll buy you a donut if it's more than 25A.
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02-23-2009, 10:59 PM
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Another item not mentioned ( Unless I missed it !) is some auto transmissions have an electronic control module which is always active.
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02-23-2009, 11:06 PM
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I stuck an ampmeter on mine once. At idle with no accesories on, it was around 20amp's. At idle with absolutely everything that could be turned on, on, it was around 42amp's. A/C at max, doors open, high beam head lights, brakes, hazards, rear defrost, stereo cranked etc... I've just got an Escort, so it doesn't have many accesories at all.
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02-24-2009, 02:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tygen1
I stuck an ampmeter on mine once. At idle with no accesories on, it was around 20amp's. At idle with absolutely everything that could be turned on, on, it was around 42amp's. A/C at max, doors open, high beam head lights, brakes, hazards, rear defrost, stereo cranked etc... I've just got an Escort, so it doesn't have many accesories at all.
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In my car the the low beams, high beams and fog lights are 55W each per bulb. The lows and fogs turn off when the highs are on, so I have 2x55W with high beams vs 4x55W with low beams + fog lamps.
Also, Svietlana has way more electronic gizmos than I need or even want:
- heated side mirrors (turns on with rear window heating),
- rain sensor for the automatic windshield wipers,
- light sensor for the automatic headlights when it gets dark (of course here the lights must be on during the day too),
- electrophotochromic mirror, turns dark when someone shines at you at night,
- FM/GSM/GPS antenna, GPS is always looking for satelites even though I never use it,
- 5 disc CD changer which doesn't work, but is making noises and gets pretty warm after 30 minuts of driving (I'm going to get rid of it soon).
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A few more I can think of. Many cars of the 90s+ had a body control module.
Power antenna, power headlight motors. Probably not significant but many had them.
Heated backlight, does that mean rear defrost?
Fog/driving lights is a good mention, since many vehicles have those.
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My Previa van draws 15-20A running without any other loads. I have an ammeter installed. The brake lights used to draw about 8 amps but I switched them to LED and now they don't even show up on the ammeter.
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07-06-2009, 07:28 PM
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I P&G(lots of engine off coasting) with my 94 Corolla a lot. If I drive at night, with the headlights, brakelights, and the top 3rd brakelight all on, but with all other electrical stuff off, about how long could I coast before I either:
A) Do not have enough power to start my car with the key
B) Have my lights dim to the point that it becomes a safety problem
C) Damage my battery
I have a 550(ah?) battery in relatively good condition, so let's assume 550 as a starting point.
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