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Old 12-09-2012, 04:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Lets hope the brunt of that isn't the drivetrain!

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Old 12-10-2012, 12:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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w0w.

Lets hope the brunt of that isn't the drivetrain!
A quick search shows the following:

Insight engine weight = ~128 lbs
Insight transmission = ~50 lbs
Insight hybrid system = ~95 lbs

Total drive train = 273 lbs

Beetle engine weight = ~360 lbs
Beetle transmission = ~80 lbs

Total drive train = 440 lbs

Delta = 167 lbs... or around 9% of the entire vehicle weight.

I'll be moving the battery to the rear hatch to help with weight distribution. Unfortunately I'm going to have to use a battery with a higher capacity to start the high compression diesel so that will add more weight...

I'm guessing the car will be ~200-250 lbs heavier than a stock Insight with the additional bracing and other mods necessary to pull this off.

P.S. Beetlejuice is broken. It developed a loud clunk and a bad shudder engaging 1st gear... I suspect the dual mass flywheel has given up the ghost due to me beating on it.
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Old 12-13-2012, 10:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I'm obviously not condoning skipping out on emissions regulations (especially on a forum like this!!) but there are times when they simply don't make sense.
Sometimes the emissions regulations seem too dumb to be true. EPA witch-hunting against Diesels is one of those pointless aspects of the current "environmental" laws.
workaround ideas to discuss among friends: Arguments against EPA witch-hunting regarding Diesels without mandatory emissions equipment
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Old 12-26-2012, 06:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So, I'm debating using a Civic hatchback (EG) instead of an Insight for this project. I can't find a reasonably priced Insight around here (people want insane money for these right now).

Pros for the Civic:

- Easier swap
- Can carry 4-5 people if needed
- Has more room to carry junk
- Parts more readily available

Cons for the Civic:

- Heavier
- Less aerodynamic
- Not as interesting

Should I keep holding out for an Insight or just buy one of the dozens of Civic hatchbacks on Craigslist?
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:03 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Looking for salvage title vehicles?
I was trying to avoid it but I may pick up one depending on why it was salvaged. Flood or theft history would be fine, crash damage will probably not be fine.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:29 PM   #19 (permalink)
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How about a TDI into a 2nd gen CRX swap? Lots of CRX shells for sale on CL.

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Old 12-26-2012, 07:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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A diesel CRX would be fun.

Otherwise, hold out for an Insight. Tony (especially!) and I have proven they're available out there for cheap if you're willing to hunt (and be patient).

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