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Old 06-18-2017, 09:04 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Suicide-doors don't look any good in a vehiche that was not originally fitted with them, but eventually a pillarless setup with suicide rear doors and conventional front ones could enhance the practicality of the vehicle.

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Old 06-18-2017, 10:26 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Hardtop station wagons came and went in IIRC 2 or 3 years.

My 1950 Studebaker had suicide rear doors. I always think of them as 'drive-in movie doors'.
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Hardtop station wagons came and went in IIRC 2 or 3 years.
I meant something fully pillarless, like those extended-cab trucks, but with the rear doors opening independently from the front doors. Useful to the older family members to get in and out of the car more easily, or to load some bulky items.
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I'm with you on this one. The split manifold has a ratty exhaust note, maybe a 6 into three into one header?

But definitely a four-door with the rear doors suicided.
I wouldn't rule out headers. You're right, it's easy to make one of these sound too rappy instead of that smooth crackly sound.

Never thought about suiciding the doors before. I'm thinking there's got to be more than a few cars that would look neat on...
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The car I saw it on, in a magazine, was a 1956 Chevy 4-door wagon. Grouping the door handles together gives it a clean look, like the Lincoln Continental. Or this:



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Yup I agree, getting those door handles together is a tight, concise look. But you still have to be judicious on what you give that treatment to. Doing it to a car that people know of as looking one way, and doing it another way, leads to a bit of shock. So in my mind, you have to be really discerning of what that might look good on.
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Honda Element?
Though I have seen only one of those with Bolivian plates roaming around in my hometown some years ago, and was not quick enough to pick my phone and take a few pictures, that's close to what I had in mind, even though its rear doors are quite too short to enhance practicality as a conventionally-sized rear door would do.
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I would start with a mid 90's to curent GMC 1 ton 4x4 cab and Chassis wrecker equipped ( this means heavier frame and fish plated renforfed typically crew cab longwheel base . )there is a turm for it I dont remember it .... the reason for the chasie would be to correctly support the Cummins Engine in a low stance capable of working just as hard as any flatbed pickup truck out there. Providing a market for the pices parts of the total design. It would also be capable of Bonneville runs and SCCA National Solo Road Corce, Dreem Big Chisel Down To Reality, Pikes Peek . Front would be kept torsion bar, but have a robotic servo adjusting the pre load /ride height at each corner separately. This would be controlled by an on bord super computer . 3 axis G Froce compensating ride hight and camber, aka it leans into the corner like a Sprint Car on a high bank clay track. The spindles would be custom HMMWV type portal hub with a Hi- lo planetary reduction to tuck the suspension up inside the bodywork. She would be able to hike her skirt up for more groung clearance/suspension travle. in inclement weather . Theas would be powered by Tesla type 400 hp drive system.
Now repeat for the rear as a inline series hybrid callable of all Diesel' all battery electric, genset/ electric and battery/Diesel. Classes . The engine would be controled in ways that would take pages/books to wright. But the short and sweet. A multi fule ,like a old duce and a hafe. Each cylinder would be independently VGT turbocharged( with brushless dc charger/assistance seeTurbo as a charger?) and controled electric engine valves for infinite valve timing /compression . Basically 6 separate engines with a common crank. The connecting rods would be a computer controled variable length reducing pumping losses to 0 for cylinder deactivation and alowing for the sweet sopt to always be right there nomater what fuel is used.
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A picture is worth a thousand words , wish I was a better artist. Theas things dont exist yet just have to be paciant and let technology kechup. With a helpfull poke every now and again .
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Hardtop station wagons came and went in IIRC 2 or 3 years.

My 1950 Studebaker had suicide rear doors. I always think of them as 'drive-in movie doors'.
That is an amazingly cool car.

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