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Old 05-03-2017, 06:35 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Now I'm wandering how long it will be until some Clarity PEHVs end up in junkyards... because I could actually (mostly) bills my dream car.
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What OEM parts do you need, the Hydrogen tanks?
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What OEM parts do you need, the Hydrogen tanks?
Na, I'm interested in the PEHV. To me, a 1.5L lean burn Atkinson cycle "range extender" engine with a clutched 1 speed "gearbox" to the wheels, mated series-hybrid to a Chevy Volt sized battery is an almost perfect drivetrain.

Honda touted the 2.0 that landed in the 2nd gen Accord hybrid was the most efficient production gasoline engine in the world (the Accord gets almost 25% better highway economy than the Volt on gas alone, despite being bigger), and this appears to be a downsized version of that engine.

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The Atkinsonized 2.0L I4 by itself develops 141 horsepower and 122 lb-ft. of torque. It is one of the world’s most thermally efficient powerplants available anywhere in the world. In fact, at 214 g/kWh of 87-octane gasoline fuel, this engine is the most energy efficient mass produced gasoline internal combustion engine available in the world, based on internal testing.
Using 2755g/gal of gasoline, 214g/kwh means you're getting 12.9kwh of usable energy, which is 38.3% thermally efficient.

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It was a trick question. If you're not interested in hydrogen as a fuel, and since the
Clarity will never 'fill the junkyards' without an hydrogen fuel infrastructure being in place; then why not get a 2nd gen Accord and sleeve and de-stroke the engine? That's standard engineering practice.

And it's more likely to ignite 87-octane gasoline.
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I really like the Linner Strømlinet Vogn design by Tyler Linner shown here:
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and here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sven_de...7627502802789/

Here's a video of my interpretation of Tyler's design:
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With the front suspension of this:


Goal: to transport 2 people or 1 person + 100 kg of cargo, with the benefits of:
-not getting wet when it rains
-not falling on your head when you get bumped into by a car
-low taxation and low fuel consumption
-legally lane-splitting when its rush hour.
-3 wheels means I can drive it on my car license / don't need a motorcycle license.
-3 wheels means it doesn't fall over without extending 'landing gear'
-better fuel efficiency through streamlined body instead of upright toilet seat position.

Construction would probably be steel frame with lexan and fiberglass outter shell, though could also be carbon fiber monocoque if needed to save weight. There are some weight limitations on what is considered a motorcycle.

Drivetrain would either be motorcycle or electric, not particularly picky on that right now, motorcycle would probably be the cheaper and lighter option, plus easier to get it road legal.

Budget, I think somewhere between 12k and 15k including a used donor motorcycle for drivetrain and suspension should do the trick. I just don't have the money or the time.

Also, this isn't a novel idea, I got inspired by students from my university who attempted the exact same, but got stuck in the "getting a custom vehicle road legal" papermill and then gave up.
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I really like the Linner Strømlinet Vogn design by Tyler Linner ...
I miss him posting, last post was 05-01-2016 07:07 PM.


http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/linner-stromlinet-vogn-ii-24269.html#post345139

Look at the profile across the base of the windshield.
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Agreed, it wont be as nimble as a stock FD...but with some wide arse rubber, and big brakes it will handle very well..With the big bad arse engine in there which could be tuned to well in excess of 1000hp if desired (And still be frugal when OFF boost..), you would have a super nimble sports car (Think better handling than a Z06 vette), more straightline punch capability than a dodge viper, and better fuel economy than a prius...not a bad mix ....
Yes, you could definately put a more efficient smaller diesel in there, with decent torque to maintain the shoot for the stars gearing, but you would instantly lose the straightline speed required to make a race car driver grin properly!
Better handling than a Z06?

I think not.

The Z06 will outhandle the RX-7 and virtually every other car on the planet, including most super cars. Your duramax RX-7 will handle like an RX-7, with a fatman strapped down to the hood.

I do agree that it would get Prius mileage along with insane acceleration.....one you get the rear wheels to hook up. The mega torque from a tweaked duramax would make this a challenge.
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