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Old 08-30-2012, 08:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Isn't 2030 about when the carbon cap and tax takes full effect over in europe, at least for the countries that got scammed into it?
Because cheap energy and economic collapse in developed countries are two terms that you normally never see together.
Cheap energy was one of the main driving factors in the economic super boom in the late 1990s and early 2000s.

If they slap taxes on everying carbon related and shut down any commerce that involves long distance phyical movement then yes I agree there will be an economic collapse.

The only “Limits to Growth” I see on the horizon are those that ration what domestic soured cheap energy we do have for irrational reasons and encourage hyper expensive under producing "alternatives" or "renewables".
I dont think people realize these hyper expensive alternatives eat up capital that could be invested else where.
That cheap energy pumps water and makes fertilizer for crops, makes steel and concrete.
Now by rationing energy you effectively reduced food production and slowed national growth/development. I don't believe for a second that this is unintended.
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Last edited by oil pan 4; 08-31-2012 at 10:12 PM.. Reason: further elaborating cold calculating nature of the AGWs top level pushers