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Old 12-23-2013, 08:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
Regardless if it's cash, tax credit, hot oil massage, or other; someone is paying for it. Subsidies for all vehicles should be ended, including electrics, hybrids, and gasoline. That goes for oil subsidies too.

There is already a huge tax incentive for electric vehicle owners to buy electric. They avoid 100% of the road tax that is collected at the gasoline pump, and they still enjoy use of all public roads.

This will eventually have to be corrected, but for now, I can certainly say that robbing Peter to pay Paul for his expensive luxury electric vehicle is an outrage
You're confusing the ZEV credits with a vehicle rebate program. Those are separate issues. The ZEV credits are not a subsidy. This is a public policy supporting emissions controls in California, a place with serious air quality problems in several regions of the state. The credits do not represent tax money. They are a form of crediting the production of low-emissions vehicles so that automakers will have an incentive to build them. The incentive is to industry, not consumers. Tesla is making money off the credits by selling them to other automakers. Public funds are not involved.
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See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



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