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Originally Posted by Chrysler kid
...but they also are all automatics.
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I hear you. But I'll make an exception to my personal "no automatics" rule in the case of a hybrid. They're rolling video games, and I find that learning how to manage the various engine/e-motor/regen/glide modes to squeeze out high mileage is engaging in the way shifting your own gears is engaging. Different but similar.
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I believe you said you have already owned an echo
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Actually, no Echos in my Toyota history. But I briefly had an '86 Tercel, and for a few years after school a rusted out '85 Camry. Both 5-speeds.