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Originally Posted by sendler
I can squeak out 5% better fuel economy on my 2011 Honda CBR250R than I get on my 2013 PCX150. Both are over 100 mpgUS, 42.5 km/L, 2.35L/ 100km. But most "normal riders get 75 mpg on the CBR250R and still get 100 on the PCX. I did 99.5 mpgUS for my 1,000 mile/ 23 hour trip on the CBR in bad weather. The PCX will top out at 67 mph with sliders instead of rollers. The CBR can hit 92 mph, 150 kph stock. A bit faster with longer gearing
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That is good to know. Now just imagine the engine of the PCX combined with the transmission of the CBR 250. Well, that is pretty close to the CBR 125, but the scooter engines seem to be better optimized for lower rpm power.
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Originally Posted by woodsrat
295 and 357 pounds respectively. Wonderful bikes, I'm sure but just too damned heavy for my tastes. After you've ridden a flyweight anything else feels absolutely piggish.
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My CBR 250R has a 346 pound curb weight in its current setup. Back when I rode dirbikes, the 230ish pound CRF 250R with 35 or so horsepower sure felt powerful, at least as powerful as the 45 horsepower my CBR has. Certainly that was a factor of gearing, but man could that bike accelerate. My usual experience with street bikes is in the area of 400-500 pounds, so my CBR feels like a featherweight in comparison. The VFR 400 probably weighs around 450 pounds.
I agree that both the 125s I want could be lighter, but 300 pounds sounds pretty light to me. And lets be honest, simple mods can drop off a good bit of weight, even on these little bikes.
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Originally Posted by ctmaybury@yahoo.com
I had to vote hell no. You would get killed on the highway around here with an underpowered motorcycle. My bikes in order were cb 360t cb500t cb 750f yz400 (dirt bike) gs1100 v65 magna (1100) suzuki madura (1200). Notice the trend in displacement.
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I have had experience with larger engined bikes(up to 800cc..), and I just don't have as much fun on them.
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Originally Posted by ctmaybury@yahoo.com
I don't think the op should be too worried about liquid cooling. Small 1 or 2 cylinder bikes do just fine with air cooling. Less weight and complications. Easy to work on too. More gears are nice but shouldn't be a show stopper if you like the bike that happens to be a 4sp. I wouldn't buy an automatic motorcycle. Fuel injection would be nice though. Never had that on a bike, but next one probably will.
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Its not that i'm worried about the cooling, I just would much rather have liquid cooling because it allows more potential to be extracted from the engine via higher compression ratios. The CBX 1000 is air cooled, but I still want it. The dream 50 is also air cooled, yet manages to pull off a 10:1 compression ratio. Fuel injection is awesome, can't wait for the injected import bikes I want to become legal.