View Single Post
Old 08-14-2020, 05:19 PM   #91 (permalink)
MetroMPG
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 57.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH View Post
You mention real world vs testing. For a manufacturer the test is reality - that is all we get credit for. Compliance and avoiding millions (USA) and billions (Europe) in fuel economy fines are based on what the testing shows.
That supports my opinion that the manual transmission test itself is part of the problem.

Also explains why GM put that 1st-to-4th manual skip shift feature in some of its big V8 sports cars back in the day? (Hmmm... do they still?)

I wonder what we'd find if we looked at owner-reported fuel economy of manual vs. automatic transmissions for a non-hypermiler's type of car. How about, say, the Subaru/Toyota BRZ/82? My theory is the manuals will still be less bad / better than the automatics, relative to their respective EPA ratings. I may poke around Fuelly and see, just for fun.

__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote