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Old 04-05-2025, 03:52 PM   #361 (permalink)
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' cold engines

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yes; much hyperbole.

Only a very small amount of the water formed during combustion will get past the piston rings on each power (and exhaust) stroke.
But in my defense; there are a good many power strokes in the average commute.
A 4 cylinder engine at say 4000 rpm has 4000 a minute, or 240 000 an hour.
Then there's condensation and bigger ring gaps in cold engines and all that.

I'll look through these later, but we both know that the water and thus acids formed in an engine sump is an issue.
Nice to turn it to an advantage in this case...
https://www.google.com/search?client...l+acids+formed
1) This is why 'cold cars' are never tested.
2) Properly done, the entire car is thermally-equilibrated,' achieving the highest-achievable operating temperature for all moving components under whatever ambient outdoor environmental conditions exist.
3) It's also why we're throwing 'caution flags' on your 'results.'
4) The car's mpg will vary by 20% during the 'warming' transition, making any data observed within that period 'garbage.'
5) Data recorded from fully-warmed vehicle road testing is what will later be factored into the ASTM dynamometer lab testing that will follow.

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As I advise dissolving the Boric Acid in hot water and adding it to a hot engine it actually makes no difference to the topic at hand.
From Argonne National Labs who works with the US govt and NASA etc, not some student thesis:

The above results demonstrate that with a mixture of boric acid and an oil lubricant, the friction coefficients are reduced by 10 to over 1000% below those of the unmixed lubricant itself. The wear rates of pins are reduced by factors of 50 to 100 below those of pins tested in unmixed oil itself
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5431830A/en
That's what 1st got my attention and why I studied BA.
Then an old smokey engine came along and I tried it.
That car continued operating for years after till it was stolen.
Now I believe in BA and am trying to share.

Perhaps I should start a new topic:
Looking for 'Old Smokey' (car/engine) for experiment.
The oil-insoluble Boron, in the presence of 'water' is what caused the 'boron' to crystalize into hard abrasive granules that destroyed the machinery in Peeler's US PATENT 3,313,727.
This why Dr. Erdemir 'abandoned' any idea of going further with boric-oxide 'plating and it was 'dropped' from the research program.
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