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Old 07-25-2013, 11:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The "GOVERNMENT" says it will not allow "NEW" 4 cylinder diesel small trucks like what are sold over seas here in the US due to "PARTICULATE" emissions (SOLIDS like sulfur), not gas emissions.

Yet a larger midsize trucks supposedly are allowed to have this type of engine that could easily be put in a smaller truck.... so hence why I slap my forehead.

Even more so the larger trucks than midsize have been shown to emit more particulates than the smaller 4 cylinder overseas economy engines... even with all the emission control systems on them.

So when you asked me if it was opinion. That was my answer. Messed up. But it is what I have found.

Makes no sense.

Does that help Frank Lee?

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Old 07-25-2013, 11:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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"Does that help?"- Not really.

How is it that diesel passenger cars are sold here?
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:26 AM   #13 (permalink)
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My point exactly!
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Every person I talk to that has a S-10 style or similar small truck, I ask them if there was a 4 cylinder diesel truck that could get 45-60mpg... would they buy one.

99% of them say yes.

So when I wrote to the department of motor vehicles, I got the excuse that they would not allow this to be made/sold in the US due to emissions.

SLAP TO THE FOREHEAD.

So does "THIS" explain my answer better.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:32 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I am answering you with only what I have experienced.

It makes no sense, being I know about VW TDI's, larger vehicles with diesels.

Here is another example... why did they only put hybirds on the larger trucks? You can not get a S-10 size truck with one.. (to my knowledge).

So why is that? What are your thoughts on this Frank Lee?
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How is it that diesel passenger cars are sold here?
The frustration the OP is expressing is valid, and I am similarly mystified. How is is that smog-belching semi-trucks are perfectly legal, and men with small genitals can blow clouds of soot out of their lifted F-2150s all day long, but a reasonably small pickup can't have a reasonable, small diesel?

Back in my Ranger days, I was constantly frustrated. In Mexico you can buy a small (I think it's like 2 liter) diesel version that can easily break 30MPG highway, and has more torque than the wasteful 4.0 liter V6 I had---but somehow in America that's not okay. It IS okay to have a Chevy pickup with a 6 inch smoke pipe spewing black **** every time you accelerate, though.
I just don't get it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and what about the 1.0 liter diesel Yaris offered overseas? Why can't I get one of those?
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Because certification is expensive and no manufacturer is going to spend that much if they think they won't find enough buyers?

You can get your 2.0 diesel Ranger if you want... but it will be an '84-'86 model.
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Frank Lee, with the amount of small economy trucks on the roads (gasoline) and the conversion of larger fleets converting to natural gas, and propane. I would guess there is enough demand for this to cover the expenses of certification. You even pointed out that there are other passenger diesel vehicles.

So the conversion costs are mute point due to that they already do this in other venues within the US boarders.

This is not what I came here to do is debate with you and be criticized for one letter off spelling.

I came here to talk with people that are currently doing swaps, conversions, and what "IS" offered in the US to battle the mpg fuel costs.

Not sure what I did to get your attention. But please look else where. As it seems you only want to play games with me.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
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No, I really didn't till later.

Nevermind... I am not getting into this with you.

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