11-01-2018, 12:09 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Lurker
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
Tesla Aero wheel vs lightweight Forged wheels
I am debating picking up a set of Tesla model 3 aero wheels or getting lightweight Forged wheels. They are both 18 inch, aero is 8.5 +40 and the Forged is 8 +40
M3 Aero wheels: Weight: 21.6 lbs (Without Aero Cover), 23 lbs (With Aero Cover)
Aftermarket Forged: Supposed 14.87 lbs
I'm on the fence on this one! Comes down to what will give me an improvement in mpg.
Most the info I could gather was on cycling forumns. The conclusion seemed to lightweight over aero for hills and aero for flats. But that's a bike, this is a car.
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
11-01-2018, 12:13 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Human Environmentalist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,838
Thanks: 4,331
Thanked 4,488 Times in 3,451 Posts
|
Tesla recovers most of the rotational energy of the heavier wheels. The decision comes down to aero for more range, or light weight for faster acceleration.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-01-2018, 12:22 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
EcoModding Lurker
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Dallas
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
|
I should mention it's going on a second gen Scion TC. The stock wheels weigh 26.5 lbs. I currently get between 36 and 40 mpg.
That being said, I can get a full set of M3 wheels, tires, tpms, and aero caps for $800. For a lightweight Forged wheelim looking at $1000+...
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Whiteghost For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-01-2018, 12:44 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Human Environmentalist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,838
Thanks: 4,331
Thanked 4,488 Times in 3,451 Posts
|
Well a Scion isn't range limited, so I'd go with the lightweight ones. You won't observe a difference in MPG from the weight reduction though, so again, buy them if you want a faster accelerating car.
I've had my eye out for lighter wheels for my Acura, but I'm looking on the used market since $800 for slightly faster acceleration and better handling seems like too much.
|
|
|
11-01-2018, 02:15 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5,098
Thanks: 2,907
Thanked 2,573 Times in 1,595 Posts
|
Put your Acura engine in a lighter car. I can think of one that would let you shed almost 1500lbs.
I'd personally go with the forged, given choice between those two in a gasoline car. The aero wheels may interact differently with the airflow around your Scion. Undoubtedly they'd cut drag, but perhaps not as much as on a Tesla.
|
|
|
11-01-2018, 03:36 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Human Environmentalist
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,838
Thanks: 4,331
Thanked 4,488 Times in 3,451 Posts
|
No way, the TSX is a fabulous car. I'm keeping it until one of my kids totalls it.
|
|
|
11-01-2018, 04:05 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Corporate imperialist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,268
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,572 Times in 2,836 Posts
|
You may be able to get steel wheels lighter than that.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
|
|
|
11-01-2018, 04:20 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Urbana, IL
Posts: 1,939
Thanks: 199
Thanked 1,807 Times in 943 Posts
|
Wow, I'm surprised the Model 3 wheels are that heavy.
As far as aerodynamics, the Tesla wheel covers just close most of the face, which will be beneficial no matter what the rest of the car looks like. However--are the Tesla wheels and tires wider than what you have now? If so, that will change the drag in a number of ways, some beneficial and some not. A larger wheel and tire will take up more volume in the wheel housing, lowering drag. However, it will present slightly more area to the wind and, perhaps more importantly, extend past the wheel strakes if there are any on a Scion tC (I think there are?).
If I were you, and the cost difference were minimal, I would go with the the lighter forged wheels and ziptie some coroplast covers to them. Better aero than the Tesla wheels with less mass.
|
|
|
11-01-2018, 06:35 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
EcoModding flying lizard
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Georgia
Posts: 743
Thanks: 618
Thanked 264 Times in 176 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5
Well a Scion isn't range limited, so I'd go with the lightweight ones. You won't observe a difference in MPG from the weight reduction though, so again, buy them if you want a faster accelerating car.
I've had my eye out for lighter wheels for my Acura, but I'm looking on the used market since $800 for slightly faster acceleration and better handling seems like too much.
|
If all you are looking for is light, then the 16" 16.5 pound Acura RSX wheels should be just fine. I had the stock 215/50/17 tires and 23.5 pound 17" rims and switched to 205/60/16s. The difference in acceleration was noticeable, even for my not-underpowered V6, but the extra squishiness in corners was also noticeable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vman455
Wow, I'm surprised the Model 3 wheels are that heavy.
|
My OEM 17x6.5 wheels weigh more!
__________________
-Kaze o tatakaimasen-
Best trip in V6: 52.0
Best tank in V6: 46.0
Best tank in Mazda: 49.9
Best tank in CBR: 61.3
Best tank in SV: 83.9
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG
You can lead a fashion-conscious horse to unusual-looking water...
|
Last edited by Daschicken; 11-02-2018 at 10:20 PM..
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Daschicken For This Useful Post:
|
|
11-02-2018, 02:49 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 975
Thanks: 193
Thanked 312 Times in 221 Posts
|
Why not get the forged wheels and add homemade aero covers?
|
|
|
|