1 in 5 EV owners ditches electric, goes back to burning dead dinosaurs - California study

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

AZ seems decent. It just fries the batteries on cars like the leaf, with nightly temperature lows on the 80s.
Here in NM it's been around or over 100F the last week or so but it still gets around upper 50s or low 60s at night. Battery is doing ok.

I know! I just drove through NM four times in the past few weeks and ended up getting heat stroke and a bladder infection. (not from the driving since I do have air conditioning in the car, just not where I stay.)

As far as places to charge going through Colorado and NM, there just aren't many places to do it from. I'd have to take the long way around to make it in an EV like a Leaf, or possibly even a Tesla. For me an EV is ok for around town, or it has to be a plug-in hybrid. Or there needs to be more places to charge. Or I just need to be a bit more insane to try going all EV again.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

AZ seems decent. It just fries the batteries on cars like the leaf, with nightly temperature lows on the 80s.

Even though nowadays I consider hybrids quite unavoidable in the middle to long term, a full-EV doesn't convince me because of the higher impact from the environmental conditions to their range.

[Isaac Zachary]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Even though nowadays I consider hybrids quite unavoidable in the middle to long term, a full-EV doesn't convince me because of the higher impact from the environmental conditions to their range.

Tell me about it! In my 24kWh Leaf I at times got over 100 miles on a single charge. But then winter came along and I couldn't even get 40 miles going downhill!

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

The chance to still operate with some fuel, even if it would serve mostly as some sort of "range extender", is better than nothing.

[rmay635703]

Looks like Prius taxes are working

10 years in Wisconsin still has barely 6000 plug ins

35 states have statistically zero plug ins

[redpoint5]

GM is recalling all of their 2017+ EVs due to LG battery defects.

LG is recalling even their home batteries due to this defect.

On forums I'm hearing some people say they are switching back to ICE.

While I'd like to see EVs bound forward in technology and adoption, I'm hoping this setback allows me to get a cheap Bolt EV.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

GM is recalling all of their 2017+ EVs due to LG battery defects.

LG is recalling even their home batteries due to this defect.

On forums I'm hearing some people say they are switching back to ICE.

While I'd like to see EVs bound forward in technology and adoption, I'm hoping this setback allows me to get a cheap Bolt EV.

If only

Mid pandemic I really should have bought a $9999 60,000 mile Bolt, now that same car is +50%

Seems like every recall raises prices

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

If only

Mid pandemic I really should have bought a $9999 60,000 mile Bolt, now that same car is +50%

Seems like every recall raises prices

Yep, but I don't know if the stop sale and dwindling inventory is the reason for the price increase, or if it just happened to coincide with used vehicle prices skyrocketing.

Used Bolt values were lowest in early February, and peaked in July. They are slowly heading downward again, but have about $5k to drop before they are back at February pricing.

Maybe by next Feb the real deals can be had. The Bolt is likely to either get new batteries with a small upgrade in capacity, or favorable buyback offers. There's potential profit in there somewhere if only I could figure out where I placed my crystal ball.

[Isaac Zachary]

I thought dwindling new car inventory was causing less used cars to hit the market, which causes used car inventory to dwindle, which causes the price increase.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary

I thought dwindling new car inventory was causing less used cars to hit the market, which causes used car inventory to dwindle, which causes the price increase.

Naturally. On a sidenote, I have noticed it as a reason for some people to get a smaller car when they buy a new one, as they would eventually not be able or willing to pay too much more for one comparable to what is being replaced.