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Old 11-18-2017, 02:05 PM   #31 (permalink)
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And you don't have the common (ok, not so common :-() courtesy to pull over and let them by? When one of those people stuck behind you is having a really bad day, succumbs to road rage, and puts a couple of bullets through your rear window... Well, if I'm on the jury, he'll get off with justifiable homicide.
I think I'm going to have to keep one eye on you.

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I don't mind somebody going slow, but around here what drives me crazy is this. They drive that slow speed but as soon as there is a passing lane they temporarily add 10-15 mph to that speed so passing involves something like 85 mph to even get 1/2 The cars by. Then as soon as the lane ends back to the slow. I drive slow as well sometimes and will slow down even more on a passing opportunity to let people by.
In the Oregon Coast Range, they slow down for the corners. The corners is where the fun is.

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Old 11-18-2017, 02:14 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Since I'M the one operating within the law and those wanting to go faster most likely are not, tell me again about who's being discourteous?
You do realize that law and courtesy are not always, or perhaps even often, the same thing? Not to mention honor, justice or simple decency?
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As I've already noted, it isn't practical to continuously pull over. Honor, justice, and decency??? ****
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You do realize that law and courtesy are not always, or perhaps even often, the same thing? Not to mention honor, justice or simple decency?
Your slicing it pretty thin here.
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Old 11-18-2017, 05:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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As I've already noted, it isn't practical to continuously pull over.
The first time you said "It. Doesn't. Work." So now are you saying "It. Works. But. It. Inconveniences. Me."?

I don't live where you do. Around here there tend to be a lot of little roads, a result of colonial transportation systems. There are usually dozens of ways for an imaginative and not-in-a-rush person to get from X to Y. I've done some cycling in Colorado and out there it is more like "if you want to go to X there is Highway Y or else you can cut across the mountain on your dirt bike." So not as many choices.
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How do you get that out of it?

IT. DOESN'T. WORK.
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So some gun toting psychopath's right to travel at his preferred rate of speed is more valuable than my right to... travel at my preferred rate of speed?
Worse. He is claiming that some gun toting psychopath's right to murder you is more important than your right to live.

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2) Gun-toting psychopaths don't generally care about your rights, any more than a momma bear cares about yours if you get between her and her cubs.
Who needs to breathe deeply? You compare a mother bear's right to protect her cubs and a [would-be] murderer's response to driving they do not like?

What is to stop the gun-toting psychopath from disliking your driving or your car or your haircut or that you got pickles on your burger?

What part of [murderous] psychopath do you not understand?

What is to protect you from murderous psychopaths while the rest of us are exposing ourselves by driving how we feel most comfortable?

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I sure hope you never need the services of an ambulance operated by Duhmericans...
Well, that is not as bad an example, but while I have seen atrocious drivers, I have never seen anyone refuse to make way for emergency vehicles. It undoubtedly happens, but if one car in a hundred refuse to move, the emergency vehicles should still get through.

If it happens to you, let us know, and we will chip in for some pretty flowers!

By the way, isn't it a law in many places that you need to pull over if there are x cars behind you? As I recall, I determined this is not the law in Arizona, but everywhere I drive has regular places to pass, although cars still cross the double yellow to get around me.
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