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Old 06-20-2014, 03:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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There's a reason this Texan chose a second white car to replace the first one. I can put my hand on the roof of my car, and then my silver Odyssey beside it, and the Ody is noticeably hotter. Black? Yeaouch!

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Old 06-20-2014, 03:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This paradigm of auto manufacturers refunding money to vehicle owners for cars not measuring up to their EPA stickers is completely new, utterly foreign to me. In the old days the ads very plainly said, "Your mileage may vary," which was code for "It'll be a cold day in Galveston before you get numbers this good," and we all understood that and it was okay.

God help us when people start analyzing EPA stickers vs. various cars' real world equipment, and start buying them specifically in anticipation of some future mileage-related payout.
People as a group failing to reach the posted MPG rating was what highlighted the problem, but the payout is not technically for that. It's for fudging the numbers and posting a rating that's too high. When the lower-rated Prius V was beating the higher-rated C-Max when driven side by side on the same road, something was clearly wrong.

Ford, along with Hyundai, are paying owners for the difference in EPA rated mileage, regardless of what the individual driver is actually achieving.
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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What kind of idiot buys a black, non tinted window car?

(sorry, Baltothewolf - couldn't resist.)
My uncle just gave me the car and he lives in Long Beach, where it's illegal to have any type of tint on your car on the front passenger/driver side windows :P.
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Ahh, can't look a gift horse in the mouth, etc., eh?
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Ahh, can't look a gift horse in the mouth, etc., eh?
No but I can whoop the previous owners ass for tearing the car up, his ex-wife took it from him in the divorce and tore it apart. It needs a good 2k in work to get the interior into good condition, at least it runs good still.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:06 AM   #16 (permalink)
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What kind of idiot buys a black, non tinted window car?

(sorry, Baltothewolf - couldn't resist.)
I have three black vehicles with no tint. But then where I live, I don't need a/c in the cars or the house and summer only lasts five weeks.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I think the mythbusters tested the black vs white car. Their conclusion was the temp different was like 5 degrees. Ive had white to black cars and black did feel warmer inthe summer. Strangely black windows makes it cooler? My thought was only silver window tint would make it cooler?
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No but I can whoop the previous owners ass for tearing the car up, his ex-wife took it from him in the divorce and tore it apart. It needs a good 2k in work to get the interior into good condition, at least it runs good still.
Oh, that's too bad..... sorry to hear that.

But the fact it runs good is the important part, I guess.

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