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Old 07-23-2008, 10:00 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Economies are slowing in the Americas, Europe and Asian. It won't last forever. The rebound will be painful, unless energy is concerved.

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Old 07-24-2008, 02:59 AM   #212 (permalink)
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I think we need to stop buying from overseas and get some refineries up and rollin till we have alternative transportation..
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I think we need to stop buying from overseas and get some refineries up and rollin till we have alternative transportation..
i disagree.
i have a friend who works at a refinary, times are tough for them, their profit is down, and they are operating well below rated output.. building more refinaries would just make it worse for them

besides, spending money in hopes of lowering fuel prices is only subsadizing people who wast fuel.

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Old 07-25-2008, 02:12 AM   #214 (permalink)
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i disagree.
i have a friend who works at a refinary, times are tough for them, their profit is down, and they are operating well below rated output.. building more refinaries would just make it worse for them

besides, spending money in hopes of lowering fuel prices is only subsadizing people who wast fuel.

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What does your friend do there at the refinery?
I have family working in Billings MT at a refinery and they've slowed down considerably there... For whatever reason, thats unclear to me, but it mite be different for them vs. your "friend"

I think whats happening here is that the US is stockbuying on oil and waiting for them to dry up so the old switcharoo and sell it back to them at a high price? just a thought, no clue tho.
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Gas is 3.89 here right now.
Thats the lowest I've seen it since before the May Elections.
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:41 AM   #216 (permalink)
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What does your friend do there at the refinery?
I have family working in Billings MT at a refinery and they've slowed down considerably there... For whatever reason, thats unclear to me, but it mite be different for them vs. your "friend"
He is a GE employee at a Valero Refinery. He sells/ blends anti-corrosion additives. His primary $ comes from Chevron "with Techron" but he sells some to all of the gasoline which is refined there. Last I heard (Like a week) they were down under 75% and he wasn't getting any bonuses due to the low output.


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I think whats happening here is that the US is stockbuying on oil and waiting for them to dry up so the old switcharoo and sell it back to them at a high price? just a thought, no clue tho.[/QUOTE]

Well; then they lost their ass last week. :-)


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Old 07-28-2008, 10:49 AM   #217 (permalink)
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Face it people are hurting now and driving as little as possable, with food going up and the forclosures etc.. times are tough and people are cutting back. demand is down so refineries are slowing.

Not to wish bad mojo on your friends, but id rather have this situation than a situation where there isn't enough gas to make the world work, and prices over inflated because of to much demand and not enough supply.
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Face it people are hurting now and driving as little as possable...
Seems to me that (in most cases), the hurt is a self-inflicted wound. Nobody forced people to buy e.g. that honking big F350 diesel pickup (real life example there: my neighbors' kid). Indeed, a lot of people have been warning about the negative consequences for years. So they don't listen? Sorry, but I'll save my pity for someone that deserves it.
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Well my local news ran a story this morning about how that the dropping fuel prices were allowing more people to return to their normal driving habits. Errr

Oh well; just makes it a better time to go out and look for used cooking oil :-)
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So I guess gas is going back to $1.50/gallon now. Well maybe $3.75

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