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Sven7 11-18-2011 10:51 AM

1965 Ford F100 Aero cap? Photoshop inside...
 
Modding the Probe and reading about other success stories here has made me really want to improve my truck's 14-15mpg. Just driving it to car shows and whatnot isn't bad but last summer I daily drove it for two months while working on my Rabbit so the gas costs got painful for this college student.

Anyway, I'm just going to post up some ideas to see what you all think. It would be cool to make this over winter break so it'll hit the ground running next spring :thumbup: The cap would probably be made of painted plywood and hinged at the top for easy access. You can see the panel gaps in the 3/4 view. It's got to still be functional so it'll probably have to slot into the stake pockets for easy removal.

Of course the truck would get a belly pan and very small air dam as well, because honestly the twin I beam and underbody are a complete aero mess!

Anyway, 2 minute Photoshops...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/...d87d990a_z.jpg
Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6235/...e89b2007_z.jpg
Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr

Perhaps a curved top to emulate Hucho's template?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/...b8e713cb_z.jpg
Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr

Would it be good to taper in plan view too, or will the edges of the box negate this? Could I make a window in it? Out of what, plexi?

What kind of gains have others seen with aero caps?

PS- for those who are wondering it's a 352 V8 with 3 on the tree. Hardly economical.

kach22i 11-18-2011 09:40 PM

I like the idea of doing something retro and period correct, which your font certainly seems to conjure.

Curving the rear corners so it ends up being more of an arch at the little end does seem to be the trend, and would flatter the rest of your curves.

I think rear vision is surrendered unless you are going plexi-glass roof with a Prius type rear mini window.

Have you thought of making this an aero camper? I have not seen this done yet. I don't mean "pop-up" style, I have seen that. I'm thinking more like the green template humping the roof and then tapering back.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ck-overlay.jpg

slowmover 11-18-2011 10:49 PM

The first two pics -- side view -- look like Air Force service vehicles. Or, a local gas station light-duty wrecker (low boom). Both cool. Let the letter type" match the Ford lettering "type" is ideal, nearly as you have it. The curved piece is almost more a 1930's or 40's look. Maybe "better", but outside of the period appeal. I vote the first pair. Either would be outstanding!

KamperBob 11-19-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven7 (Post 270879)
Perhaps a curved top to emulate Hucho's template?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/...b8e713cb_z.jpg

Sweet. The template is your friend aero wise but in the case of this truck a curved shell can work nicely with classic wheel skirts. The duck tail and lettering also look nice. And yes, plan taper too - definitely! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 270951)
Have you thought of making this an aero camper? I have not seen this done yet. I don't mean "pop-up" style, I have seen that. I'm thinking more like the green template humping the roof and then tapering back.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ck-overlay.jpg

Agreed! But align the bottom of the template at ground level and enlarge. The gentler roof line will improve head room for interior comfort. Longer it can rest on the tailgate too. :D

Sven7 11-19-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 270951)
I like the idea of doing something retro and period correct, which your font certainly seems to conjure.

Curving the rear corners so it ends up being more of an arch at the little end does seem to be the trend, and would flatter the rest of your curves.

I think rear vision is surrendered unless you are going plexi-glass roof with a Prius type rear mini window.

Have you thought of making this an aero camper? I have not seen this done yet. I don't mean "pop-up" style, I have seen that. I'm thinking more like the green template humping the roof and then tapering back.

Retro was not the intent, but it did work out that way. I've been wanting to do a topper for awhile but haven't had the time/money to develop some fiberglass skills. (No one sells toppers for these)

The vision is a legitimate concern so it will have to be addressed. Perhaps some thin-ish acrylic? I could layer them one over another like a lobster shell so water and air don't get caught up in the gaps.

I have thought a little about making some usable space in the bed but it really comes down to the fact that I'd never use it. However, one of my life goals (hopefully implemented in the next 5 years) is to travel the US or perhaps the continent in a VW T2 or T3 camper. This of course would need a boat tail! :D But seriously with the long distance driving it could mean hundreds of dollars of savings.

Cliffs: Not on this vehicle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowmover (Post 270958)
The first two pics -- side view -- look like Air Force service vehicles. Or, a local gas station light-duty wrecker (low boom). Both cool. Let the letter type" match the Ford lettering "type" is ideal, nearly as you have it. The curved piece is almost more a 1930's or 40's look. Maybe "better", but outside of the period appeal. I vote the first pair. Either would be outstanding!

A Flickr contact said they look like airport vehicles! Haha, I don't know why this truck and not the billion others with aero toppers? :p

There really isn't a script font anywhere on the truck save for the Ford logo on the steering wheel so I'll probably just make up something 60's-ish like I did here. (Yes, it's hand lettered :D)

One of my contacts also said the curved top reminded him of this White streamliner:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4071/4...7e10ca32b0.jpg
1937 White Model 700 Streamline Tanker Truck by aldenjewell, on Flickr

I still think it's more period correct than a boxy triangle but who knows?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamperBob
Sweet. The template is your friend aero wise but in the case of this truck a curved shell can work nicely with classic wheel skirts. The duck tail and lettering also look nice. And yes, plan taper too - definitely!

Wheel skirts? Did they even make them for these? :confused:

Plan taper, got it!

Next step: 3D mockup! (Not for awhile though- finals loom)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3563/3...bb7b0119_m.jpg
1966 Ford F-100-750 Conventional Cab Dimensions by Custom_Cab, on Flickr

NeilBlanchard 11-19-2011 11:25 AM

I think this is how the overlay needs to be done:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ickupTruck.png

Sven7 11-19-2011 11:51 AM

^^That's the way I did it. If you're talking to Kachi, he was trying to make a high top camper.

aerohead 11-19-2011 02:58 PM

plan-taper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sven7 (Post 270879)
Modding the Probe and reading about other success stories here has made me really want to improve my truck's 14-15mpg. Just driving it to car shows and whatnot isn't bad but last summer I daily drove it for two months while working on my Rabbit so the gas costs got painful for this college student.

Anyway, I'm just going to post up some ideas to see what you all think. It would be cool to make this over winter break so it'll hit the ground running next spring :thumbup: The cap would probably be made of painted plywood and hinged at the top for easy access. You can see the panel gaps in the 3/4 view. It's got to still be functional so it'll probably have to slot into the stake pockets for easy removal.

Of course the truck would get a belly pan and very small air dam as well, because honestly the twin I beam and underbody are a complete aero mess!

Anyway, 2 minute Photoshops...

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/...d87d990a_z.jpg
Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6235/...e89b2007_z.jpg
Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr

Perhaps a curved top to emulate Hucho's template?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/...b8e713cb_z.jpg
Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr

Would it be good to taper in plan view too, or will the edges of the box negate this? Could I make a window in it? Out of what, plexi?

What kind of gains have others seen with aero caps?

PS- for those who are wondering it's a 352 V8 with 3 on the tree. Hardly economical.

Both the original Dodge/T-100 aeroshell and Poco-Loco which serves me today have plan-taper and provide a 13% mpg savings versus 10% for the straight-sided Ford/Texas Tech aeroshell.
It's a more challenging fabrication but will pay the biggest dividend at the pump if your willing to take it on.

Sven7 11-19-2011 06:19 PM

Thank you for commenting, Phil! I have done a few drawings and imagine the side to side support beams to have radii on the outside edges which get larger as they go back. This could include plan view tapering but I'd like it to go to all edges for storage and looks reasons. The problem then would be what to use for skin.

Rokeby 11-19-2011 07:06 PM

Damn your eyes, Sven7 (jk ;) )
You've ruined my whole weekend.
Running a google search on this dreamboat turned up these strange beauties,
which I'm going to have to research more fully:

1938 Diamond T Seagram's custom van

1937 Heintz Comet
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...02_resized.jpg

Custom bodied Alfa Romeo
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...eo_resized.jpg

NASA '37 Chevy? custom
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...tail%20450.jpg

1933 Holland Coach Craft van
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...ft_resized.jpg

Hungerford Rocket car, the "Shirley Lois Moon Girl"
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...35_resized.jpg

Pribil Housecar
http://www.leblogauto.com/wp-content...l_housecar.jpg

REO Speed Tanker
http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...er_resized.jpg

All from various pages of streamliners and teardroppers | Hemmings Blog: Classic and collectible cars and parts


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